1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:02,801 [music playing] 2 00:00:36,871 --> 00:00:38,937 NAAZIM RICHARDSON: Every human being that comes to this planet 3 00:00:38,939 --> 00:00:41,573 has a fight. 4 00:00:41,575 --> 00:00:44,943 The ultimate opponent is actually truth. 5 00:00:44,945 --> 00:00:48,047 The truth will wean out everything else. 6 00:00:48,049 --> 00:00:52,017 -Fighting for your identity or for who you are for real 7 00:00:52,019 --> 00:00:55,154 is one of the hardest things you have to do. 8 00:00:55,156 --> 00:00:56,889 -Boxing, I think, is conquering not 9 00:00:56,891 --> 00:00:58,991 only your opponent, but yourself. 10 00:00:58,993 --> 00:01:01,093 You've got to transcend your fear 11 00:01:01,095 --> 00:01:03,162 and reach deep down to a part of you 12 00:01:03,164 --> 00:01:05,130 that you may not even know is there. 13 00:01:05,132 --> 00:01:08,000 [music playing] 14 00:01:12,807 --> 00:01:14,406 RON HOWARD: The heroic nature of boxing 15 00:01:14,408 --> 00:01:16,475 is something that's undeniable. 16 00:01:16,477 --> 00:01:18,610 There is skill, there's expertise, 17 00:01:18,612 --> 00:01:23,782 but there's always this possibility of tremendous loss. 18 00:01:23,784 --> 00:01:26,151 DENZEL WASHINGTON: Boxing is just the anticipation. 19 00:01:26,153 --> 00:01:29,054 It's one punch and it's all over with. 20 00:01:29,056 --> 00:01:32,124 -A lucky punch can turn a guy into a star. 21 00:01:32,126 --> 00:01:34,226 And being caught when he's not looking 22 00:01:34,228 --> 00:01:37,529 could turn a star to a shadow of himself. 23 00:01:37,531 --> 00:01:40,466 [music playing] 24 00:01:43,904 --> 00:01:46,538 -Rich kids don't go into boxing. 25 00:01:46,540 --> 00:01:48,674 Boxing is a way out of the ghetto. 26 00:01:48,676 --> 00:01:51,810 One minute, a boxer is not getting anything. 27 00:01:51,812 --> 00:01:53,679 The next minute, he's signing a contract 28 00:01:53,681 --> 00:01:54,746 for millions of dollars. 29 00:01:54,748 --> 00:01:56,815 How do you handle that? 30 00:01:56,817 --> 00:01:59,685 LOU DIBELLA: The sport itself, there's a purity to it. 31 00:01:59,687 --> 00:02:01,186 But the business might be the most 32 00:02:01,188 --> 00:02:03,522 unsanitized of all businesses. 33 00:02:03,524 --> 00:02:06,091 -Boxing is one of those sports where the toughest 34 00:02:06,093 --> 00:02:08,460 motherfuckers in the world are letting some guys that couldn't 35 00:02:08,462 --> 00:02:11,063 make it take advantage of them. 36 00:02:11,065 --> 00:02:13,065 LOU DIBELLA: It's a reflection of our society 37 00:02:13,067 --> 00:02:16,435 and your ability to achieve dreams, 38 00:02:16,437 --> 00:02:19,204 but it's also a reflection of our society and the fact 39 00:02:19,206 --> 00:02:21,907 that we are unquestionably divided between the haves 40 00:02:21,909 --> 00:02:23,642 and the have nots. 41 00:02:23,644 --> 00:02:26,178 -It's not an easy way to make a living, 42 00:02:26,180 --> 00:02:29,248 and it's the most dangerous sport there is. 43 00:02:29,250 --> 00:02:30,883 But that's the risk you take. 44 00:02:56,577 --> 00:03:00,345 -I'm the youngest of nine in my family. 45 00:03:00,347 --> 00:03:03,515 As you can see, a black little boy. 46 00:03:03,517 --> 00:03:11,823 Black and came from people call it the ghetto. 47 00:03:11,825 --> 00:03:14,693 My mother didn't read, my father didn't read, 48 00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:18,063 and so they were hard workers. 49 00:03:18,065 --> 00:03:22,367 And that was my beginning. 50 00:03:22,369 --> 00:03:23,569 When you live in a project, people 51 00:03:23,571 --> 00:03:26,338 throw their trash on the ground. 52 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:28,073 We were the family that picked the trash 53 00:03:28,075 --> 00:03:30,442 up and put it in the dumpster. 54 00:03:30,444 --> 00:03:33,812 And people looked and would laugh at us. 55 00:03:33,814 --> 00:03:36,048 My mother said, you know, you live in this environment. 56 00:03:36,050 --> 00:03:38,850 You don't have to be like that. 57 00:03:38,852 --> 00:03:41,587 Of course, people had money and they 58 00:03:41,589 --> 00:03:43,989 used their money in the wrong way. 59 00:03:43,991 --> 00:03:48,293 My mother didn't buy clothes or toys. 60 00:03:48,295 --> 00:03:49,595 She bought food. 61 00:03:49,597 --> 00:03:52,864 She knew that this is what we need to be able to live. 62 00:03:56,103 --> 00:04:01,306 -My upbringing, it was four sisters, three brothers. 63 00:04:01,308 --> 00:04:04,009 Coming out of Philadelphia is a task itself, 64 00:04:04,011 --> 00:04:06,745 especially in the inner city called North Philly. 65 00:04:10,017 --> 00:04:12,184 In the morning, we'd get up to my mother saying, OK. 66 00:04:12,186 --> 00:04:14,653 Get up, get ready for school, this and that. 67 00:04:14,655 --> 00:04:18,957 You had to ration out two cans of pork and beans with six kids 68 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:20,759 and try to mix other stuff in there 69 00:04:20,761 --> 00:04:22,661 to call it something different. 70 00:04:22,663 --> 00:04:24,896 Mom, it's the same pork and beans. 71 00:04:24,898 --> 00:04:28,267 It's just got other meats in it that make it something else. 72 00:04:28,269 --> 00:04:30,702 My father was one of the guys that got up every day, 73 00:04:30,704 --> 00:04:32,971 did what he had to do. 74 00:04:32,973 --> 00:04:35,307 I never seen him sell drugs, anything like that, 75 00:04:35,309 --> 00:04:37,542 but I know that he used drugs. 76 00:04:37,544 --> 00:04:39,711 I know that he drank. 77 00:04:39,713 --> 00:04:42,914 So I had the two parent structure in the house, 78 00:04:42,916 --> 00:04:48,754 but it was a family where we was tight, 79 00:04:48,756 --> 00:04:51,223 but there were some things that wasn't 80 00:04:51,225 --> 00:04:54,159 as I would say a normal family would be. 81 00:05:01,835 --> 00:05:04,202 -The worst characteristics you could think of black life 82 00:05:04,204 --> 00:05:05,304 is where I stem from. 83 00:05:05,306 --> 00:05:07,472 A lot of drugs. 84 00:05:07,474 --> 00:05:09,074 Tons of violence. 85 00:05:09,076 --> 00:05:11,076 My parents sold women. 86 00:05:11,078 --> 00:05:14,246 They were in the sex industry and stuff. 87 00:05:14,248 --> 00:05:17,416 That's what they did. 88 00:05:17,418 --> 00:05:19,584 We weren't safe in the house. 89 00:05:19,586 --> 00:05:22,921 We were always vulnerable. 90 00:05:22,923 --> 00:05:29,661 A lot of men sleep with my sister, beat me. 91 00:05:29,663 --> 00:05:33,498 -There was a pattern of abuse that Mike experienced. 92 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:35,967 Bullies in the neighborhood which routinely would pick 93 00:05:35,969 --> 00:05:40,639 on him, but also Mike was beaten by his mother. 94 00:05:40,641 --> 00:05:43,675 His father was pretty much absent. 95 00:05:43,677 --> 00:05:45,243 MIKE TYSON: My mother's very promiscuous. 96 00:05:45,245 --> 00:05:50,515 It was just the way life was. 97 00:05:50,517 --> 00:05:52,384 Everybody I knew had just their mother at home 98 00:05:52,386 --> 00:05:54,052 or their mother's boyfriend. 99 00:05:54,054 --> 00:05:56,221 Nobody was ever with his father. 100 00:05:56,223 --> 00:05:57,456 I don't know that world. 101 00:05:57,458 --> 00:06:01,860 My whole world is just lost kids with broken homes. 102 00:06:01,862 --> 00:06:03,095 You know, forget poverty. 103 00:06:03,097 --> 00:06:05,430 I don't care how much money you get, or game. 104 00:06:05,432 --> 00:06:06,565 Forget that. 105 00:06:06,567 --> 00:06:10,035 Poverty hurts and leaves an everlasting effect, 106 00:06:10,037 --> 00:06:10,836 impression on you. 107 00:06:16,577 --> 00:06:20,379 -Poverty has its own self perpetuating logic. 108 00:06:20,381 --> 00:06:23,382 When you are strapped for cash and you 109 00:06:23,384 --> 00:06:25,450 need to survive in the short term, 110 00:06:25,452 --> 00:06:29,421 you start to adopt certain practices that in the long term 111 00:06:29,423 --> 00:06:32,124 end up preventing you from taking advantage of all 112 00:06:32,126 --> 00:06:35,026 the opportunities that may be out there for you. 113 00:06:35,028 --> 00:06:36,595 -We came in on the era where it really 114 00:06:36,597 --> 00:06:41,633 got a little worse, where nobody had anything. 115 00:06:41,635 --> 00:06:44,102 You couldn't tease me about my mother being on welfare 116 00:06:44,104 --> 00:06:46,505 because your mother was on welfare. 117 00:06:46,507 --> 00:06:47,873 JOHN PFAFF: Childhood poverty oftentimes 118 00:06:47,875 --> 00:06:51,710 leads to adult poverty, and you get locked in these ruts. 119 00:06:51,712 --> 00:06:54,112 So not only are these worse environments, 120 00:06:54,114 --> 00:06:57,015 but they find it much harder to escape. 121 00:06:57,017 --> 00:07:00,218 All these ills work together to create very strong barriers 122 00:07:00,220 --> 00:07:02,854 to upward mobility, and very hard to still believe 123 00:07:02,856 --> 00:07:04,256 the American dream is out there. 124 00:07:04,258 --> 00:07:07,426 -The American dream is something that we're all proud of, we all 125 00:07:07,428 --> 00:07:10,529 embrace, yet it's a little bit dangerous. 126 00:07:10,531 --> 00:07:14,065 America may be one of the richest countries in the world, 127 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:16,868 but we also have the largest pockets 128 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:19,971 of poverty in the developed countries. 129 00:07:19,973 --> 00:07:22,340 One in five children in the United States 130 00:07:22,342 --> 00:07:24,209 grows up in poverty. 131 00:07:24,211 --> 00:07:28,046 America has, by far, the most unequal distribution 132 00:07:28,048 --> 00:07:30,649 of income and wealth in the developed world. 133 00:07:30,651 --> 00:07:35,353 Yet, the idea of the American Dream is, in a sense, 134 00:07:35,355 --> 00:07:37,088 what keeps the whole system running. 135 00:07:40,194 --> 00:07:43,495 -I know what it is when people move away from you because they 136 00:07:43,497 --> 00:07:46,798 think that they're gonna catch what you got. 137 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,735 They think they're gonna get poor if they get to know you. 138 00:07:50,737 --> 00:07:52,504 -I was just always searching for something. 139 00:07:52,506 --> 00:07:54,539 I didn't like my life at home, so I 140 00:07:54,541 --> 00:07:56,141 wanted to have a family somewhere else. 141 00:07:56,143 --> 00:07:58,944 I tried to find a new family. 142 00:07:58,946 --> 00:08:00,612 BERNARD HOPKINS: People that I hung around 143 00:08:00,614 --> 00:08:03,081 was in the same situation that I was in. 144 00:08:03,083 --> 00:08:04,916 You went on like you was going to school, 145 00:08:04,918 --> 00:08:10,055 but in reality, we was in the area, but not in the classroom. 146 00:08:10,057 --> 00:08:14,326 We stayed around the school, but not actually in the school. 147 00:08:14,328 --> 00:08:18,096 And eventually, people do find out, but after a while, 148 00:08:18,098 --> 00:08:21,099 you get lost in the system. 149 00:08:21,101 --> 00:08:23,168 -When I went to school, they said 150 00:08:23,170 --> 00:08:24,503 we wasn't gonna be anything. 151 00:08:24,505 --> 00:08:26,204 They said, we're gonna be statistics. 152 00:08:26,206 --> 00:08:28,106 You're not articulate. 153 00:08:28,108 --> 00:08:31,142 You don't know your ABCs and the simple stuff. 154 00:08:31,144 --> 00:08:34,379 And my mom always said, so they read better than you. 155 00:08:34,381 --> 00:08:37,115 Who's the fastest in your school? 156 00:08:37,117 --> 00:08:38,650 I said fastest at what? 157 00:08:38,652 --> 00:08:39,951 She said, running. 158 00:08:39,953 --> 00:08:42,020 Who run the fastest? 159 00:08:42,022 --> 00:08:43,722 I outran everybody. 160 00:08:43,724 --> 00:08:45,857 My mom says, there's things that you do better than that person. 161 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:49,394 I said, but momma, they don't talk about that. 162 00:08:49,396 --> 00:08:50,729 Your day will come. 163 00:08:50,731 --> 00:08:55,066 -My goal wasn't to be the president of the United States. 164 00:08:55,068 --> 00:09:02,874 My goal was to be the baddest guy that I can be. 165 00:09:02,876 --> 00:09:04,609 We just basically looked at school 166 00:09:04,611 --> 00:09:09,981 as being no fun, no action, and if you do catch us there, 167 00:09:09,983 --> 00:09:12,384 it's gym where we get to play basketball. 168 00:09:12,386 --> 00:09:14,419 We could just do things that we thought 169 00:09:14,421 --> 00:09:16,154 was more important than reading, and writing, 170 00:09:16,156 --> 00:09:17,923 and science, and history. 171 00:09:20,594 --> 00:09:21,826 MIKE TYSON: I stopped going to school 172 00:09:21,828 --> 00:09:23,361 because people were kicking my ass. 173 00:09:23,363 --> 00:09:26,064 I just walk around the school 'til school is over 174 00:09:26,066 --> 00:09:28,033 because I didn't wanna get my ass kicked. 175 00:09:28,035 --> 00:09:30,335 One day, these guys came around me. 176 00:09:30,337 --> 00:09:31,636 Three or four guys. 177 00:09:31,638 --> 00:09:33,471 They pinned me up against the wall and they say, hey. 178 00:09:33,473 --> 00:09:34,039 Yo. 179 00:09:34,041 --> 00:09:34,573 Got any money? 180 00:09:34,575 --> 00:09:35,273 I said, no. 181 00:09:35,275 --> 00:09:36,441 So the guy says this. 182 00:09:36,443 --> 00:09:39,244 He said, uh, do you wanna fly with us? 183 00:09:39,246 --> 00:09:40,111 And I didn't know him. 184 00:09:40,113 --> 00:09:41,313 It's a kid, 10 or nine. 185 00:09:41,315 --> 00:09:42,881 I'm saying, OK. 186 00:09:42,883 --> 00:09:44,816 So I'm helping these guys to this building. 187 00:09:44,818 --> 00:09:45,984 This is like an abandoned building. 188 00:09:45,986 --> 00:09:47,953 And I see a box, and it's pigeons. 189 00:09:47,955 --> 00:09:48,820 And pigeons are flying. 190 00:09:48,822 --> 00:09:50,655 I said, what the hell. 191 00:09:50,657 --> 00:09:51,923 Now I know there's a place to hang 192 00:09:51,925 --> 00:09:53,358 out with birds and these guys. 193 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,659 So I said, OK. 194 00:09:54,661 --> 00:09:57,195 I'd rather be there than be in school and get bullied. 195 00:09:57,197 --> 00:09:59,097 So I went back to the coop. 196 00:09:59,099 --> 00:10:01,199 I said, need me to do anything for you. 197 00:10:01,201 --> 00:10:02,367 They said, yeah. 198 00:10:02,369 --> 00:10:06,605 And he took me robbing houses. 199 00:10:06,607 --> 00:10:09,140 And-- Whoa. 200 00:10:09,142 --> 00:10:13,612 And he didn't give me much money, 201 00:10:13,614 --> 00:10:14,546 but he bought me clothes. 202 00:10:20,721 --> 00:10:21,586 He bought me clothes. 203 00:10:25,025 --> 00:10:26,791 LARRY SLOMAN: There are a number of reasons, I think, 204 00:10:26,793 --> 00:10:29,394 why he kind of embraced the thug life. 205 00:10:29,396 --> 00:10:32,564 One of which is, if you have a community of people who 206 00:10:32,566 --> 00:10:36,101 are watching your back, then you're going to be protected. 207 00:10:36,103 --> 00:10:39,604 And now he's buying the coolest velour sweatsuits, 208 00:10:39,606 --> 00:10:42,674 and he's buying ski goggles even though he's never been anywhere 209 00:10:42,676 --> 00:10:46,211 near a ski slope, and he's buying the greatest kicks. 210 00:10:46,213 --> 00:10:50,215 So now, status in that environment 211 00:10:50,217 --> 00:10:52,417 is who looks the coolest. 212 00:10:52,419 --> 00:10:56,254 -The role models that I've seen was the people in the street. 213 00:10:56,256 --> 00:10:58,890 The pimps, the number writers, the hustlers. 214 00:10:58,892 --> 00:11:00,859 They had the cars, they had the jewelry, 215 00:11:00,861 --> 00:11:05,163 they had all the things that shine in your face. 216 00:11:05,165 --> 00:11:08,400 As you grow up and you grow up fast, 217 00:11:08,402 --> 00:11:13,538 you get to know what they're doing is not right, but got 218 00:11:13,540 --> 00:11:16,508 them a lot of things and made them live different or better 219 00:11:16,510 --> 00:11:20,779 than every working class person in the streets. 220 00:11:20,781 --> 00:11:22,080 NAAZIM RICHARDSON: That's the situation 221 00:11:22,082 --> 00:11:24,816 for a lot of young people out there. 222 00:11:24,818 --> 00:11:27,585 They could step off the porch with all the values 223 00:11:27,587 --> 00:11:29,954 in the world their mom gave them and dad can give them. 224 00:11:29,956 --> 00:11:32,290 When they step off that porch into that den, 225 00:11:32,292 --> 00:11:34,526 they've got to deal with it accordingly. 226 00:11:34,528 --> 00:11:36,561 You can go out there and turn the other cheek if you want to. 227 00:11:36,563 --> 00:11:37,996 All they're gonna do is hit you in the head 228 00:11:37,998 --> 00:11:39,497 and take that earring too. 229 00:11:39,499 --> 00:11:42,233 So you had to adapt. 230 00:11:42,235 --> 00:11:47,806 Those that adapt well become predators out there themselves. 231 00:11:47,808 --> 00:11:50,909 BERNARD HOPKINS: To me, it wasn't a hard choice. 232 00:11:50,911 --> 00:11:55,080 I was the type of guy had no conscience of value of my life 233 00:11:55,082 --> 00:11:57,215 and repercussions of what I do. 234 00:11:57,217 --> 00:12:01,119 When you think that the value of your life 235 00:12:01,121 --> 00:12:05,356 it's not that much concern on your actions, 236 00:12:05,358 --> 00:12:09,661 then that is a time bomb waiting to blow. 237 00:12:09,663 --> 00:12:11,629 CURTIS JACKSON: Ain't no rules. 238 00:12:11,631 --> 00:12:13,364 You don't get disqualified for busting 239 00:12:13,366 --> 00:12:15,166 a nigga over the head with something. 240 00:12:15,168 --> 00:12:17,068 When you get hurt back, either your fear 241 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:21,306 consumes you or you become a bit insensitive. 242 00:12:21,308 --> 00:12:22,874 Either you gonna be a punk, or you 243 00:12:22,876 --> 00:12:25,477 gonna start to harden up a little bit following that. 244 00:12:25,479 --> 00:12:27,645 However you handle yourself, you make it clear to people 245 00:12:27,647 --> 00:12:30,615 that you don't have a problem with it. 246 00:12:30,617 --> 00:12:33,952 Matter of fact, make them feel like you want the shit. 247 00:12:33,954 --> 00:12:37,856 -In an environment that I grew up in, which was animal, 248 00:12:37,858 --> 00:12:41,626 which was survival of the fittest, which was do or die, 249 00:12:41,628 --> 00:12:43,962 you have to be strategic. 250 00:12:43,964 --> 00:12:45,130 NAAZIM RICHARDSON: Very few of us 251 00:12:45,132 --> 00:12:47,332 grow up in fear, because we live in this, 252 00:12:47,334 --> 00:12:49,901 and we're taught early we can't be afraid of it. 253 00:12:49,903 --> 00:12:53,571 Whenever we're confronted with an obstacle in the streets 254 00:12:53,573 --> 00:12:57,008 of a physical nature, the first thing we think of 255 00:12:57,010 --> 00:12:59,844 is how to dissect the obstacle. 256 00:13:14,060 --> 00:13:16,828 -My dream started off with a coach 257 00:13:16,830 --> 00:13:20,231 told me I could be the heavyweight champion 258 00:13:20,233 --> 00:13:21,065 of the world. 259 00:13:21,067 --> 00:13:22,967 And I asked him, what was it. 260 00:13:22,969 --> 00:13:26,237 And he said, Muhammad Ali. 261 00:13:26,239 --> 00:13:28,072 He said, do you know Muhammad Ali. 262 00:13:28,074 --> 00:13:29,574 I said, yeah. 263 00:13:29,576 --> 00:13:31,176 And he said, you could be just like that. 264 00:13:35,649 --> 00:13:39,350 First goal was to be the Boys Club champ. 265 00:13:39,352 --> 00:13:43,288 I wanted to be great, because I already know how it feels not 266 00:13:43,290 --> 00:13:45,490 to be great, because I grew up in it. 267 00:13:48,962 --> 00:13:50,662 In one fight, I became the Boys Club champ. 268 00:13:53,433 --> 00:13:57,569 Every year, I would win the tournament. 269 00:13:57,571 --> 00:13:59,771 DALTON CONLEY: Boxing's interesting in that it's 270 00:13:59,773 --> 00:14:02,941 an escape from the violence and poverty 271 00:14:02,943 --> 00:14:05,243 of many American neighborhoods, but you're 272 00:14:05,245 --> 00:14:07,345 escaping through violence itself. 273 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,514 -People who fight fight their way out 274 00:14:09,516 --> 00:14:12,450 of something, whether it's poverty, whether it's jail. 275 00:14:12,452 --> 00:14:13,518 Rich kids don't fight. 276 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,020 Why the fuck would a rich kid fight? 277 00:14:16,022 --> 00:14:17,655 Poor kids fight. 278 00:14:17,657 --> 00:14:20,391 You want to fight your way to a different place. 279 00:14:20,393 --> 00:14:21,726 AL BERNSTEIN: Boxing gives you a chance 280 00:14:21,728 --> 00:14:23,728 to literally fight your way through it. 281 00:14:23,730 --> 00:14:26,698 Boxers succeed based on their own work. 282 00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:30,134 If you keep winning, and you keep succeeding, chances are, 283 00:14:30,136 --> 00:14:32,737 eventually, you're going to get an opportunity. 284 00:14:32,739 --> 00:14:34,772 GEORGE WILLIS: Boxing is the ultimate representation 285 00:14:34,774 --> 00:14:36,608 of the American dream. 286 00:14:36,610 --> 00:14:42,680 It allows someone who came from nothing to achieve greatness. 287 00:14:42,682 --> 00:14:45,250 It's about his talent, his own skill, 288 00:14:45,252 --> 00:14:47,352 and his own determination. 289 00:14:47,354 --> 00:14:48,887 MARK WAHLBERG: Boxing is such a special sport. 290 00:14:48,889 --> 00:14:50,655 I think most people don't choose boxing. 291 00:14:50,657 --> 00:14:52,123 I think boxing chooses them. 292 00:14:52,125 --> 00:14:55,226 Disadvantaged childhood, less fortunate kids 293 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:56,928 in tough communities. 294 00:14:56,930 --> 00:15:00,198 And we grew up boxing at the Boys Club. 295 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,100 We were able to go there and we had somebody 296 00:15:02,102 --> 00:15:04,402 who cared about us, who wanted to take us off the streets 297 00:15:04,404 --> 00:15:05,603 and give us something to do. 298 00:15:05,605 --> 00:15:08,139 -If you look at the history of boxing over time, 299 00:15:08,141 --> 00:15:11,609 you'll see some of the cultures and ethnicities that 300 00:15:11,611 --> 00:15:13,111 have suffered the most have always 301 00:15:13,113 --> 00:15:15,213 produced the greatest champions. 302 00:15:15,215 --> 00:15:17,749 DALTON CONLEY: Boxing both attracts and preys 303 00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:21,853 upon talent from disadvantaged communities. 304 00:15:21,855 --> 00:15:24,722 And it's almost like you can read a chart of history 305 00:15:24,724 --> 00:15:27,725 of disadvantage, in the United States, at least, of which 306 00:15:27,727 --> 00:15:30,962 groups are struggling to make it and then which groups have made 307 00:15:30,964 --> 00:15:34,232 it when they disappear, really, from the boxing scene. 308 00:15:34,234 --> 00:15:36,000 -Especially in America where you had the immigrants. 309 00:15:36,002 --> 00:15:39,203 You had the Jewish boxers, the Irish boxers, 310 00:15:39,205 --> 00:15:42,540 the Italian American boxers, African American boxers. 311 00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:44,108 Now it's, I would say, predominantly 312 00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:46,144 Hispanic boxers now. 313 00:15:46,146 --> 00:15:47,745 LARRY SLOMAN: There's a certain generation 314 00:15:47,747 --> 00:15:50,515 with Mike, and Evander, and Bernard. 315 00:15:50,517 --> 00:15:52,750 Black kids who were disadvantaged 316 00:15:52,752 --> 00:15:56,888 and saw boxing as a way out. 317 00:15:56,890 --> 00:15:58,723 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: I lived in an all black neighborhood 318 00:15:58,725 --> 00:16:02,961 and everybody said white boys couldn't fight. 319 00:16:02,963 --> 00:16:06,898 And that's my first time experiencing that people tell 320 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:11,970 you lies, because that kid was white and he beat me twice. 321 00:16:11,972 --> 00:16:14,973 I told the coach that I quit. 322 00:16:14,975 --> 00:16:17,275 Told him I didn't want to fight anymore, because I didn't think 323 00:16:17,277 --> 00:16:20,912 you could actually be a champion if you lost. 324 00:16:20,914 --> 00:16:26,084 So I went home told my momma I lost, and I told her I quit. 325 00:16:26,086 --> 00:16:32,156 And she told me something that has impacted my life even now. 326 00:16:32,158 --> 00:16:33,491 She said, son. 327 00:16:33,493 --> 00:16:36,894 Everything is not gonna always go your way. 328 00:16:36,896 --> 00:16:39,464 If you quit, you'll never reach your destination. 329 00:16:39,466 --> 00:16:42,066 She said, what is your destination. 330 00:16:42,068 --> 00:16:44,602 I said, be the heavyweight champion of the world. 331 00:16:44,604 --> 00:16:48,272 Of course, I went back and I finally beat him, 332 00:16:48,274 --> 00:16:54,445 and that fight kind of changed my whole aspect about winning. 333 00:16:58,918 --> 00:17:01,853 MIKE TYSON: I kept getting in trouble with the law. 334 00:17:01,855 --> 00:17:03,488 One particular time, I got in trouble 335 00:17:03,490 --> 00:17:06,324 and I went upstate New York. 336 00:17:06,326 --> 00:17:10,194 I had a reputation as a troublemaker there. 337 00:17:10,196 --> 00:17:12,130 I had to be locked down most of the time. 338 00:17:12,132 --> 00:17:14,265 I couldn't go outside with the rest of the kids. 339 00:17:14,267 --> 00:17:17,702 Weekends, I would see guys go on the other side. 340 00:17:17,704 --> 00:17:18,870 And I would say, what's going on, 341 00:17:18,872 --> 00:17:20,772 because I would see guys coming back, 342 00:17:20,774 --> 00:17:23,908 swollen eyes, busted nose, busted lips. 343 00:17:23,910 --> 00:17:27,578 The most interesting thing about it is that they were happy. 344 00:17:27,580 --> 00:17:29,147 When they would come back, they're all beat up, 345 00:17:29,149 --> 00:17:30,248 but they're happy. 346 00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:32,984 And I would say, what's going on over there. 347 00:17:32,986 --> 00:17:36,054 And they said, Mr. Stewart is boxing with the inmates. 348 00:17:36,056 --> 00:17:41,225 Mr. Stewart is probably 160 pounds, white Irish guy. 349 00:17:41,227 --> 00:17:42,860 I never fought before with gloves on, 350 00:17:42,862 --> 00:17:44,629 but I just knew I could beat Mr. Stewart's white ass. 351 00:17:44,631 --> 00:17:47,498 I just knew I could beat him. 352 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:51,235 I'm just flaring away, and he had hit me in my stomach, 353 00:17:51,237 --> 00:17:53,571 and I had went down, and I started 354 00:17:53,573 --> 00:17:55,706 throwing up everything I ate for two days. 355 00:17:55,708 --> 00:17:57,041 Just blech. 356 00:17:57,043 --> 00:18:00,211 So I asked him to start teaching me. 357 00:18:00,213 --> 00:18:01,779 He wouldn't teach me unless I started 358 00:18:01,781 --> 00:18:03,481 behaving around the facilities. 359 00:18:03,483 --> 00:18:06,784 And once I made my honor rolls and started doing well 360 00:18:06,786 --> 00:18:08,953 in school, he started teaching me how to box. 361 00:18:08,955 --> 00:18:12,090 -Bobby Stewart immediately saw the potential in Mike, 362 00:18:12,092 --> 00:18:14,258 and Bobby said, if you're serious about this, 363 00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:17,728 I'll take you to see this old guy in Catskill. 364 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:19,964 -Soon as Cus D'Amato saw me spar, 365 00:18:19,966 --> 00:18:22,500 he was planning my life out for me. 366 00:18:22,502 --> 00:18:24,502 First day he met me. 367 00:18:24,504 --> 00:18:27,338 LARRY SLOMAN: Cus was a kind of gruff guy. 368 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:30,608 He didn't display any emotion. 369 00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:33,277 At the end of this session, Cus turned to Bobby and said, 370 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:35,079 this guy's going to be the future heavyweight champion 371 00:18:35,081 --> 00:18:36,280 of the world. 372 00:18:39,085 --> 00:18:42,320 MIKE TYSON: At that time, I was about to be paroled back to New 373 00:18:42,322 --> 00:18:44,822 York, and he didn't want me to go back because he believed 374 00:18:44,824 --> 00:18:46,891 I would get in trouble, I'd get killed. 375 00:18:46,893 --> 00:18:49,026 He asked me would I be interested in staying with him. 376 00:18:49,028 --> 00:18:51,562 And I said, why, sure. 377 00:18:51,564 --> 00:18:54,532 I didn't want to go back to the disgusting, wretched tenements 378 00:18:54,534 --> 00:18:57,168 that we lived in. 379 00:18:57,170 --> 00:19:01,672 This guy had a wonderful like 14 room mansion. 380 00:19:01,674 --> 00:19:02,640 Roses and stuff. 381 00:19:02,642 --> 00:19:04,208 I never saw that stuff. 382 00:19:04,210 --> 00:19:06,844 LARRY SLOMAN: For the beginning of that period, 383 00:19:06,846 --> 00:19:11,149 Mike was still living in two worlds. 384 00:19:11,151 --> 00:19:12,717 While he was in Brownsville, he'd 385 00:19:12,719 --> 00:19:14,085 fall in with his old friends and they'd 386 00:19:14,087 --> 00:19:16,020 go out and start jostling. 387 00:19:16,022 --> 00:19:18,322 Mike's first street mentor, this guy 388 00:19:18,324 --> 00:19:21,826 Barqueem, I think they saw some pictures of Mike 389 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:25,329 with Cus and with Camille, and they looked, and he said, man. 390 00:19:25,331 --> 00:19:26,964 Mike, these white people. 391 00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:28,799 It looks like they love you. 392 00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:30,334 And Mike said, yeah, yeah. 393 00:19:30,336 --> 00:19:31,702 They love me. 394 00:19:31,704 --> 00:19:34,472 And he goes-- Barqueem says, what are you doing here, man. 395 00:19:34,474 --> 00:19:36,040 If I had white people that loved me, 396 00:19:36,042 --> 00:19:37,742 I wouldn't stick around here. 397 00:19:37,744 --> 00:19:38,910 And everybody in the neighborhood 398 00:19:38,912 --> 00:19:40,611 is telling Mike, go. 399 00:19:40,613 --> 00:19:42,280 Get out of here. 400 00:19:42,282 --> 00:19:46,584 At least 30% of all the families in Brownsville at that time 401 00:19:46,586 --> 00:19:49,220 had no father figures. 402 00:19:49,222 --> 00:19:50,755 DAVID LEONARD: I think when we look at boxing, 403 00:19:50,757 --> 00:19:53,824 we see a number of men who grew up 404 00:19:53,826 --> 00:19:56,627 without a father in the home. 405 00:19:56,629 --> 00:20:00,598 But what's key is, they grew up in circumstances 406 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,234 where the family was redefined. 407 00:20:03,236 --> 00:20:08,372 The trainers became part of this larger extended family. 408 00:20:08,374 --> 00:20:10,575 LARRY SLOMAN: Cus would tell Mike that he was a colossus. 409 00:20:10,577 --> 00:20:12,476 He was a titan. 410 00:20:12,478 --> 00:20:16,314 And he's telling him this and building up his ego 411 00:20:16,316 --> 00:20:19,150 to a person who has absolutely no self esteem. 412 00:20:19,152 --> 00:20:20,851 So it's a very tricky situation. 413 00:20:23,122 --> 00:20:24,555 MICKY WARD: I heard about this heavy weight 414 00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:26,224 that they were saying, this guy is dangerous. 415 00:20:26,226 --> 00:20:29,927 He's from Cus D'Amato's camp and he was trained by Kevin Rooney. 416 00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:31,929 When I finally seen him, I was like, man. 417 00:20:31,931 --> 00:20:34,865 He was like-- He was going through fighters 418 00:20:34,867 --> 00:20:39,804 like a hot knife on butter. 419 00:20:39,806 --> 00:20:42,773 From that moment on, we knew he was special. 420 00:20:49,616 --> 00:20:52,083 BERNARD HOPKINS: North Philly was known for a lot of fighters 421 00:20:52,085 --> 00:20:56,287 back in the '60s, '70s, and in the '80s. 422 00:20:56,289 --> 00:21:00,057 I got introduced to the amateurs, and I had the talent, 423 00:21:00,059 --> 00:21:01,492 I had the skills. 424 00:21:01,494 --> 00:21:03,961 But then as time went on, eventually I 425 00:21:03,963 --> 00:21:06,998 started getting respect as a street fighter 426 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,001 and I shot away from boxing. 427 00:21:10,003 --> 00:21:14,005 Every time I got stabbed, which was more than once, crazy 428 00:21:14,007 --> 00:21:19,510 as it might seem, it gave more stock to who you are. 429 00:21:29,756 --> 00:21:35,893 In 1984, I was put in jail for taking money. 430 00:21:35,895 --> 00:21:37,728 At that time, I blamed the system 431 00:21:37,730 --> 00:21:41,265 for everything, even for my ignorance. 432 00:21:41,267 --> 00:21:44,669 That same year, my brother got in a fight and the guy 433 00:21:44,671 --> 00:21:45,970 pulled a gun out. 434 00:21:45,972 --> 00:21:46,904 He tried to run. 435 00:21:46,906 --> 00:21:48,172 He got shot. 436 00:21:48,174 --> 00:21:50,007 They couldn't find him because he ran down the street, 437 00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:53,377 and when they found him, he was laying across the grass. 438 00:21:53,379 --> 00:21:54,478 So can you imagine my mom? 439 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,182 It had to be hard on her to bury one son 440 00:21:58,184 --> 00:22:02,853 and then get to see me being escorted by the sheriff's 441 00:22:02,855 --> 00:22:05,489 department from prison to view the body 442 00:22:05,491 --> 00:22:07,491 and then go back to prison. 443 00:22:07,493 --> 00:22:11,429 So basically, she lost two sons. 444 00:22:11,431 --> 00:22:15,866 So 1984 was a really challenging year. 445 00:22:15,868 --> 00:22:18,769 [music playing] 446 00:22:22,642 --> 00:22:25,009 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: 1984, Mike and myself, 447 00:22:25,011 --> 00:22:28,045 we were both trying to make the Olympic team. 448 00:22:28,047 --> 00:22:30,381 -There was a big emphasis placed back then, 449 00:22:30,383 --> 00:22:33,884 especially on the idea of your amateur experience 450 00:22:33,886 --> 00:22:36,220 and this Olympic experience. 451 00:22:36,222 --> 00:22:39,256 It was very much a place where your worth 452 00:22:39,258 --> 00:22:41,425 was going to be determined. 453 00:22:41,427 --> 00:22:43,527 Holyfield and Tyson got an early taste 454 00:22:43,529 --> 00:22:46,497 of what the other was about at the Olympics. 455 00:22:46,499 --> 00:22:50,101 -That's when I got a chance to see him train. 456 00:22:50,103 --> 00:22:54,004 I'm one of the guys who kind of prides myself on working hard. 457 00:22:54,006 --> 00:22:56,741 And when I worked in the gym with him 458 00:22:56,743 --> 00:23:02,313 and I'd seen all the things that he would do, I was just amazed. 459 00:23:02,315 --> 00:23:04,315 I was like, god, you know? 460 00:23:04,317 --> 00:23:06,050 Shoot. 461 00:23:06,052 --> 00:23:07,151 17 years old. 462 00:23:07,153 --> 00:23:08,953 He's just a kid, man. 463 00:23:08,955 --> 00:23:10,988 He's the only person in a gym that I 464 00:23:10,990 --> 00:23:14,024 can admit that I worked with. 465 00:23:14,026 --> 00:23:18,195 I didn't think nobody was gonna beat him. 466 00:23:18,197 --> 00:23:22,099 -Mike unfortunately lost to a guy named Henry Tillman. 467 00:23:22,101 --> 00:23:23,334 Didn't make the Olympic team. 468 00:23:23,336 --> 00:23:26,203 He was voted as an alternate. 469 00:23:26,205 --> 00:23:27,638 MIKE TYSON: I went to the Olympic trials. 470 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,173 I didn't make the Olympics, but the experience 471 00:23:29,175 --> 00:23:32,843 in going to the Olympics was just incredible. 472 00:23:32,845 --> 00:23:35,913 Evander Holyfield, he was just very competitive, 473 00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:38,682 because he was just very hungry. 474 00:23:38,684 --> 00:23:39,517 Very hungry fighter. 475 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:40,317 And he fought. 476 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:43,053 It reminded me of me. 477 00:23:43,055 --> 00:23:44,522 He was gonna win the most outstanding fight, 478 00:23:44,524 --> 00:23:46,157 I thought, because he was knocking out everybody. 479 00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:49,593 He was beating everybody easily. 480 00:23:49,595 --> 00:23:51,829 ANNOUNCER: Evander Holyfield, United States of America. 481 00:23:51,831 --> 00:23:54,331 Kevin Barry, New Zealand. 482 00:23:54,333 --> 00:23:57,435 Holyfield came into the competition 483 00:23:57,437 --> 00:24:00,438 the unknown American, but he's known now, 484 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,807 and he's only 21 years old. 485 00:24:02,809 --> 00:24:04,708 Look at Holyfield. 486 00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:05,676 He's ready. 487 00:24:05,678 --> 00:24:07,077 He's got the opponent hurt again. 488 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:09,180 He's ready to put him away. 489 00:24:09,182 --> 00:24:11,615 Even though there's no blood there. 490 00:24:11,617 --> 00:24:13,551 Oh, there it goes. 491 00:24:13,553 --> 00:24:14,518 You saw that. 492 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,455 It was inevitable. 493 00:24:17,457 --> 00:24:20,157 Now wait a minute. 494 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:23,961 GEORGE WILLIS: Evander launches a lethal hook that drops Barry, 495 00:24:23,963 --> 00:24:25,262 and everybody thinks, OK. 496 00:24:25,264 --> 00:24:26,063 Fight's over. 497 00:24:26,065 --> 00:24:27,431 Move on. 498 00:24:27,433 --> 00:24:32,236 All of a sudden, the referee starts motioning to the judges. 499 00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:35,706 He starts motioning to Evander, and nobody 500 00:24:35,708 --> 00:24:37,541 knows exactly what's going on. 501 00:24:37,543 --> 00:24:40,244 ANNOUNCER: He is going to disqualify Evander Holyfield. 502 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:45,950 GEORGE WILLIS: He makes the announcement 503 00:24:45,952 --> 00:24:51,989 that Evander is disqualified for hitting after he called stop. 504 00:24:51,991 --> 00:24:55,125 Nobody really heard the referee say stop. 505 00:24:55,127 --> 00:24:58,295 All they saw was Evander drop the guy. 506 00:24:58,297 --> 00:25:00,331 LOU DIBELLA: Holyfield got screwed royally. 507 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:02,199 He shouldn't have been disqualified against Barry. 508 00:25:02,201 --> 00:25:03,467 It was a joke. 509 00:25:03,469 --> 00:25:06,904 ANNOUNCER: Holyfield in total command of the fight. 510 00:25:06,906 --> 00:25:11,375 And I just don't understand this ruling. 511 00:25:11,377 --> 00:25:13,344 Look at Holyfield's face. 512 00:25:13,346 --> 00:25:16,313 What an untoward development. 513 00:25:19,285 --> 00:25:21,819 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: Very conscious. 514 00:25:21,821 --> 00:25:23,287 Controlling. 515 00:25:23,289 --> 00:25:24,855 Controlling the anger. 516 00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:26,524 Controlling the tongue. 517 00:25:26,526 --> 00:25:28,192 I sit there and took it. 518 00:25:28,194 --> 00:25:31,128 Howard Cosell made me bigger than life. 519 00:25:31,130 --> 00:25:32,630 ANNOUNCER: This is unbelievable. 520 00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:35,132 Holyfield holding himself together. 521 00:25:35,134 --> 00:25:38,035 -A raging controversy had reared its ugly head. 522 00:25:38,037 --> 00:25:41,205 Bill Simon, the president of the Los Angeles Olympic Committee 523 00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:42,239 has gotten involved. 524 00:25:42,241 --> 00:25:45,342 It really is a full blown controversy. 525 00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:47,311 GEORGE WILLIS: He wanted that gold medal, 526 00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:51,882 but by responding to it the way he did, not complaining, 527 00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:55,319 showing a lot of grace, he probably 528 00:25:55,321 --> 00:25:59,690 emerged from that Olympics as the most well known 529 00:25:59,692 --> 00:26:01,525 of all those boxers, even the ones 530 00:26:01,527 --> 00:26:04,495 that had won the gold medal. 531 00:26:04,497 --> 00:26:07,531 That became his launching pad was the Olympics, while Mike 532 00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:10,267 had to begin his pro career in obscurity. 533 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,239 MIKE TYSON: Cus got me into thinking 534 00:26:15,241 --> 00:26:16,574 about the great fighters. 535 00:26:16,576 --> 00:26:18,242 And every time I failed, I'd go read about their failures 536 00:26:18,244 --> 00:26:21,579 and how they overcame their failures. 537 00:26:21,581 --> 00:26:23,247 -Mike had a very high skill set, and he 538 00:26:23,249 --> 00:26:27,117 had a profound understanding of boxing and boxing history. 539 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,786 And that's what made him special. 540 00:26:28,788 --> 00:26:30,287 MICKY WARD: When he wanted to know something, 541 00:26:30,289 --> 00:26:32,790 he'd sit there and watch numerous fights of guys 542 00:26:32,792 --> 00:26:35,159 from the '50s, and '40s, and '30s. 543 00:26:35,161 --> 00:26:37,995 He's like a boxing encyclopedia. 544 00:26:37,997 --> 00:26:39,129 MIKE TYSON: What's the difference 545 00:26:39,131 --> 00:26:41,799 between a good fighter and the great fighter? 546 00:26:41,801 --> 00:26:43,167 It's how far they're willing to go 547 00:26:43,169 --> 00:26:46,170 and how much they're willing to endure. 548 00:26:46,172 --> 00:26:47,438 It's the hunger for the world. 549 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,973 You want to be that champion. 550 00:26:48,975 --> 00:26:50,374 GEORGE WILLIS: Once you get to know Mike, 551 00:26:50,376 --> 00:26:53,310 you know he was a very insecure human being and very insecure 552 00:26:53,312 --> 00:26:57,881 fighter, so a lot of that tough guy image and a lot of the talk 553 00:26:57,883 --> 00:27:03,253 and the brashness was basically to hide his own insecurities. 554 00:27:03,255 --> 00:27:05,589 CRAIG JONES: Every time he went in the ring, he was scared. 555 00:27:05,591 --> 00:27:08,325 It wasn't like he just knew he was gonna win. 556 00:27:08,327 --> 00:27:11,061 But Mike also knew, when he looked in that opponent's eye, 557 00:27:11,063 --> 00:27:12,429 he'd seen fear. 558 00:27:12,431 --> 00:27:13,664 MIKE TYSON: Scared as I was fighting, 559 00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:16,033 I realized these guys were more afraid of me 560 00:27:16,035 --> 00:27:19,503 than I was of them, and that's when my whole game started 561 00:27:19,505 --> 00:27:22,673 changing as far as my approach to fighting. 562 00:27:22,675 --> 00:27:24,074 ANNOUNCER: Left hand almost drove 563 00:27:24,076 --> 00:27:26,477 Richardson right through the canvas. 564 00:27:26,479 --> 00:27:28,512 -I'd get all his early fights on ESPN 565 00:27:28,514 --> 00:27:31,081 and he knocked everybody out in the first three second round. 566 00:27:31,083 --> 00:27:32,716 So you looked at it and said wow. 567 00:27:32,718 --> 00:27:34,885 -Anybody that wants to stay in the business for a long period 568 00:27:34,887 --> 00:27:36,787 of time, like myself, I plan on staying in boxing. 569 00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:38,922 I would like to box for at least a good 20 years, 570 00:27:38,924 --> 00:27:39,923 because I love the game. 571 00:27:39,925 --> 00:27:40,758 -You took care of business tonight. 572 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,558 Congratulations, Mike. 573 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,726 -Thank you, very much. 574 00:27:42,728 --> 00:27:45,262 -I studied every fight that Mike fought 575 00:27:45,264 --> 00:27:46,597 and told everybody, be quiet. 576 00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:48,298 I'm watching. 577 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:49,833 Well, you know, because my whole thing, 578 00:27:49,835 --> 00:27:53,237 I realized that was going to be the toughest fight in my life 579 00:27:53,239 --> 00:27:55,039 if it happened. 580 00:27:55,041 --> 00:27:58,308 This is the guy that I've got to face one day. 581 00:28:10,222 --> 00:28:12,389 BERNARD HOPKINS: In prison, you have 582 00:28:12,391 --> 00:28:14,558 a lot of energy that's bottled up. 583 00:28:17,263 --> 00:28:20,030 From one way or the other, love it, don't love it, 584 00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:24,134 agree to disagree, it has to be released. 585 00:28:24,136 --> 00:28:28,539 After getting in a few fights, I built a reputation on the block 586 00:28:28,541 --> 00:28:30,674 like I was building on the streets. 587 00:28:30,676 --> 00:28:32,676 I was known, don't fight me. 588 00:28:32,678 --> 00:28:36,647 You've got to stab me. 589 00:28:36,649 --> 00:28:42,753 At home, you can hide, but in those institutions, 590 00:28:42,755 --> 00:28:49,426 you have to see these people every day you wake up. 591 00:28:49,428 --> 00:28:55,199 Someone is plotting for that vulnerability. 592 00:28:55,201 --> 00:28:58,869 You gotta meet your fears every day. 593 00:28:58,871 --> 00:29:00,904 Things going through my head was that I'd be dead 594 00:29:00,906 --> 00:29:03,373 before I hit 18, or I'd be in prison all my life, 595 00:29:03,375 --> 00:29:06,076 or that I'd be nothing. 596 00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:09,747 As I got more mature in jail and I started watching 597 00:29:09,749 --> 00:29:11,815 other people, I started saying to myself, 598 00:29:11,817 --> 00:29:14,818 what's wrong with this situation. 599 00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:17,221 I had to stop being ignorant. 600 00:29:17,223 --> 00:29:19,823 I started doing research. 601 00:29:19,825 --> 00:29:25,829 I seen something to me that really woke me up. 602 00:29:25,831 --> 00:29:26,830 Prison is a business. 603 00:29:34,473 --> 00:29:37,207 It's 50, it's $60,000 a year for one inmate. 604 00:29:44,216 --> 00:29:50,587 How can I keep myself from being an employee of this business? 605 00:29:50,589 --> 00:29:52,689 JOHN PFAFF: Oftentimes, the real problem with prison 606 00:29:52,691 --> 00:29:54,558 is this stultifying boredom. 607 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,895 There's mountains of evidence that the supermax prisons where 608 00:29:57,897 --> 00:30:00,097 you're in a cell by yourself 23 hours a day, 609 00:30:00,099 --> 00:30:01,732 they literally drive people insane. 610 00:30:01,734 --> 00:30:03,734 The people who leave are substantially 611 00:30:03,736 --> 00:30:05,435 mentally harmed by the experience. 612 00:30:05,437 --> 00:30:09,039 It's just not what we as humans are designed to handle. 613 00:30:09,041 --> 00:30:10,908 I think that thing that gives you something to do, 614 00:30:10,910 --> 00:30:13,710 to hold on to, can be a very powerful means of getting 615 00:30:13,712 --> 00:30:18,348 yourself through the mind numbing tedium. 616 00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:21,018 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: They had an old gym with a ring, 617 00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:26,757 with gloves, with sparring, and Smokey Wilson, AKA Michael 618 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:32,129 Wilson, continued to say, come on to the gym, man. 619 00:30:32,131 --> 00:30:33,430 Come on to the gym. 620 00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:35,732 Stop fighting on the black or you gonna go in the hole, 621 00:30:35,734 --> 00:30:37,601 or you gonna get stabbed, or this an that. 622 00:30:37,603 --> 00:30:38,402 So, all right, man. 623 00:30:38,404 --> 00:30:39,203 All right, yeah. 624 00:30:39,205 --> 00:30:40,537 I'll go to the gym. 625 00:30:40,539 --> 00:30:44,007 And I sparred with one of the known, respected guys. 626 00:30:50,449 --> 00:30:53,317 I didn't knock him out, but I gave him a boxing lesson. 627 00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:56,486 And Smokey Wilson became my trainer. 628 00:30:56,488 --> 00:31:01,592 I got a chance to get back into what I've deviated from 629 00:31:01,594 --> 00:31:05,329 and used it to my advantage in the penitentiary. 630 00:31:05,331 --> 00:31:09,566 It came to a thing where now, in prison, you bet on each other. 631 00:31:09,568 --> 00:31:12,936 And I'm getting this reputation because now, the block, 632 00:31:12,938 --> 00:31:15,639 the jail was buzzing. 633 00:31:15,641 --> 00:31:21,645 I became the celebrity boxer in a penitentiary. 634 00:31:21,647 --> 00:31:23,380 The boxing program was established 635 00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:29,086 in 38 penitentiaries, from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh. 636 00:31:29,088 --> 00:31:35,659 And so we had boxing tournaments in jail. 637 00:31:35,661 --> 00:31:40,797 In [inaudible], Rockview, Dallas, Graterford, Smithville, 638 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:42,566 Frackville. 639 00:31:42,568 --> 00:31:46,937 We, on buses, escorted by guard with shot guns 640 00:31:46,939 --> 00:31:50,641 from one prison to another. 641 00:31:50,643 --> 00:31:53,810 I'm beating everybody in every penitentiary, 642 00:31:53,812 --> 00:31:58,181 and I become the middleweight State Penitentiary champion. 643 00:32:00,719 --> 00:32:02,786 I fell back in love with boxing again. 644 00:32:09,728 --> 00:32:11,428 MARK WAHLBERG: Boxing is the sport 645 00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:14,197 which all others aspire to be. 646 00:32:14,199 --> 00:32:16,600 It's you and another guy, and who wants it more, 647 00:32:16,602 --> 00:32:18,869 and who's got the heart, and the will, and the desire, 648 00:32:18,871 --> 00:32:21,605 but it comes down to a lot more than that. 649 00:32:21,607 --> 00:32:24,641 GEORGE WILLIS: The best combat is man against man. 650 00:32:24,643 --> 00:32:27,644 I mean, since Roman times, the gladiators. 651 00:32:27,646 --> 00:32:31,114 It's human nature for people to compete against each other. 652 00:32:31,116 --> 00:32:34,051 AL BERNSTEIN: Sometimes I feel so guilty I'm a boxing fan. 653 00:32:34,053 --> 00:32:37,054 I know on one level, I'm not supposed 654 00:32:37,056 --> 00:32:39,256 to really be enjoying what I'm watching. 655 00:32:39,258 --> 00:32:43,593 And yet on another, I can't control myself. 656 00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:44,494 LOU DIBELLA: We're violent. 657 00:32:44,496 --> 00:32:45,562 We're animals. 658 00:32:45,564 --> 00:32:47,397 Like any other animal, there's a release 659 00:32:47,399 --> 00:32:49,700 of aggression that comes with fighting. 660 00:32:49,702 --> 00:32:50,834 There's a drama to it. 661 00:32:50,836 --> 00:32:52,169 Boxing is theater. 662 00:32:52,171 --> 00:32:54,604 If it's not theater, you're fucking up in presenting it. 663 00:32:54,606 --> 00:32:57,107 MARY J. BLIGE: To be ringside, you're like wow. 664 00:32:57,109 --> 00:32:58,575 This is amazing. 665 00:32:58,577 --> 00:33:00,911 The part for me that stuck was, people 666 00:33:00,913 --> 00:33:02,646 are literally fighting for their lives. 667 00:33:02,648 --> 00:33:04,481 They're fighting for their families. 668 00:33:04,483 --> 00:33:07,250 That's the thing that attracted me. 669 00:33:07,252 --> 00:33:10,420 -It's an ancient, brutal, some would say barbaric sport, 670 00:33:10,422 --> 00:33:12,622 but there's something very interesting 671 00:33:12,624 --> 00:33:18,128 about the individuals who choose to try to perform at that level 672 00:33:18,130 --> 00:33:21,098 and risk what they risk in the ring. 673 00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:22,332 -It's raw. 674 00:33:22,334 --> 00:33:25,469 It's something that appeals to our basic instincts 675 00:33:25,471 --> 00:33:28,238 of survival or battle. 676 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,973 Nobody else is going in there with you. 677 00:33:29,975 --> 00:33:31,308 You can't call timeout. 678 00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:33,076 -It's like having a fight with blood. 679 00:33:33,078 --> 00:33:34,945 A fighter doesn't care who his opponent is. 680 00:33:34,947 --> 00:33:35,879 He my weight? 681 00:33:35,881 --> 00:33:37,814 Bring him. 682 00:33:37,816 --> 00:33:39,449 LOU DIBELLA: It's a different mentality. 683 00:33:39,451 --> 00:33:41,985 They're a different breed. 684 00:33:41,987 --> 00:33:44,488 Fighters know what they have to sacrifice and give 685 00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:48,358 up to try to perfect their game. 686 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,796 A fighter learns from walking through the fire. 687 00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:55,098 ANNOUNCER: Dwight Muhammad Qawi and Evander Holyfield 688 00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:58,468 in their WBA Junior Heavyweight Title fight. 689 00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:59,803 And of course, you remember Holyfield 690 00:33:59,805 --> 00:34:01,671 with the controversial bronze medal 691 00:34:01,673 --> 00:34:03,473 at the Olympic games in Los Angeles. 692 00:34:03,475 --> 00:34:05,842 Since then, 11 successful pro bouts. 693 00:34:05,844 --> 00:34:08,345 Is 11 enough for going up against someone 694 00:34:08,347 --> 00:34:10,313 of the experience of Qawi. 695 00:34:10,315 --> 00:34:11,314 [ding] 696 00:34:11,316 --> 00:34:12,549 The bell rings and this is round one. 697 00:34:12,551 --> 00:34:14,217 ANNOUNCER: And one of Evander's biggest challenges 698 00:34:14,219 --> 00:34:16,887 here is going to be overcoming the psychological barrier 699 00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:18,688 of going 15 rounds for the first time. 700 00:34:24,963 --> 00:34:27,330 LOU DIBELLA: Just keeping your hands up for three minutes 701 00:34:27,332 --> 00:34:31,668 and moving around the ring is tremendous exertion physically. 702 00:34:31,670 --> 00:34:36,540 But running around for 15 rounds, three minutes a round, 703 00:34:36,542 --> 00:34:39,376 throwing punches at a guy who's trying to hurt you, and getting 704 00:34:39,378 --> 00:34:42,913 hit while it's all going on, there's just nothing like it. 705 00:34:42,915 --> 00:34:43,713 ANNOUNCER: Qawi. 706 00:34:43,715 --> 00:34:45,148 Holyfield is going for it. 707 00:34:45,150 --> 00:34:48,518 He doesn't wanna go 15 rounds. 708 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,189 He's only in round three and he's using so much energy. 709 00:34:52,191 --> 00:34:56,660 Qawi breathing very heavily, but he is relentless. 710 00:34:56,662 --> 00:34:59,129 A left and a right combination again. 711 00:34:59,131 --> 00:35:01,098 Boy, that combo has worked well for Holyfield, 712 00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:04,101 but now a big left right left coming back from Qawi. 713 00:35:04,103 --> 00:35:07,571 Holyfield, back against the ropes and sliding away. 714 00:35:07,573 --> 00:35:12,042 Qawi's slipping an awful lot of those punches out. 715 00:35:12,044 --> 00:35:14,511 He missed about 10 consecutive punches. 716 00:35:14,513 --> 00:35:17,481 Qawi got underneath almost every punch from Holyfield 717 00:35:17,483 --> 00:35:19,916 and came back and landed punches of his own. 718 00:35:19,918 --> 00:35:20,884 You saw the smiling shrug. 719 00:35:20,886 --> 00:35:23,019 And that is demoralizing to Evander. 720 00:35:23,021 --> 00:35:25,989 He built up some energy for a flurry 721 00:35:25,991 --> 00:35:27,991 and he got nothing out of it. 722 00:35:27,993 --> 00:35:29,960 Just watching these two go at it, 723 00:35:29,962 --> 00:35:32,462 there's no way that I could imagine this one going 15. 724 00:35:34,967 --> 00:35:37,000 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: Whatever I hit him with, 725 00:35:37,002 --> 00:35:41,738 that guy never stopped coming. 726 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:43,073 ANNOUNCER: Now we're really going 727 00:35:43,075 --> 00:35:46,309 to get to see what kind of shape Evander Holyfield is in. 728 00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:48,879 He's only been to eight rounds once in his career. 729 00:35:48,881 --> 00:35:51,882 Evander Holyfield started this fight very fast. 730 00:35:51,884 --> 00:35:53,483 Won the first round in convincing and impressive 731 00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:54,818 fashion. 732 00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:57,053 But the grabs have gotten closer and closer since then. 733 00:35:57,055 --> 00:36:01,825 Perspiration flying off the face of Holyfield as Qawi gets in. 734 00:36:01,827 --> 00:36:04,194 And he looks a little slower and slower 735 00:36:04,196 --> 00:36:06,897 as this fight moves along. 736 00:36:06,899 --> 00:36:10,100 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: When somebody's breathing on you, 737 00:36:10,102 --> 00:36:13,503 and they have the right to hit you just as the right you have 738 00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:16,306 to hit them, they become the toughest thing. 739 00:36:16,308 --> 00:36:19,809 ANNOUNCER: A right left, right left combo to Holyfield! 740 00:36:19,811 --> 00:36:20,944 Holyfield is staggering! 741 00:36:20,946 --> 00:36:22,279 ANNOUNCER: He's gotta be feeling hurt right now! 742 00:36:22,281 --> 00:36:24,014 ANNOUNCER: This is just trench warfare. 743 00:36:24,016 --> 00:36:25,549 Right now, Dwight Qawi is winning it. 744 00:36:25,551 --> 00:36:26,683 ANNOUNCER: The question is, who's 745 00:36:26,685 --> 00:36:27,784 gonna get their second wind first? 746 00:36:30,589 --> 00:36:33,623 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: And just like somebody putting 747 00:36:33,625 --> 00:36:36,993 a mask over your head and put your hands behind your back 748 00:36:36,995 --> 00:36:39,796 and throw you out into the middle of the ocean, 749 00:36:39,798 --> 00:36:43,600 that's how tough this fight was. 750 00:36:43,602 --> 00:36:48,138 ANNOUNCER: Round 11 Evander Holyfield's never gone this far 751 00:36:48,140 --> 00:36:53,143 in his professional career, or in his career period. 752 00:36:53,145 --> 00:36:56,646 Goes for the head, and a big, powerful right, 753 00:36:56,648 --> 00:36:58,148 the likes of which we haven't seen 754 00:36:58,150 --> 00:37:00,483 from Holyfield in a few rounds. 755 00:37:00,485 --> 00:37:02,419 ANNOUNCER: I'm a little bit surprised that Evander has been 756 00:37:02,421 --> 00:37:04,554 able to hang in there as well as he did. 757 00:37:04,556 --> 00:37:06,523 He tired a little bit, but he's come back 758 00:37:06,525 --> 00:37:08,024 and he's very much in the fight. 759 00:37:08,026 --> 00:37:10,026 ANNOUNCER: Qawi's eyes are blood red. 760 00:37:10,028 --> 00:37:12,028 He has taken numerous shots. 761 00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:14,030 ANNOUNCER: Breathing very, very heavily. 762 00:37:14,032 --> 00:37:16,032 Bloody in the mouth. 763 00:37:16,034 --> 00:37:18,001 Evander has a tremendous heart. 764 00:37:18,003 --> 00:37:21,004 It's a burning intensity. 765 00:37:21,006 --> 00:37:23,006 ANNOUNCER: As these two try to chip away and chip 766 00:37:23,008 --> 00:37:25,008 away at the stamina of each other. 767 00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:26,710 ANNOUNCER: Both men showing unbelievable courage 768 00:37:26,712 --> 00:37:27,510 and determination. 769 00:37:31,016 --> 00:37:33,717 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: I lost 15 pounds in that fight. 770 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,519 They were talking about my kidneys were messed up. 771 00:37:36,521 --> 00:37:39,122 All I wanted to do is not die. 772 00:37:39,124 --> 00:37:41,024 ANNOUNCER: Holyfield's eyes have that fire. 773 00:37:41,026 --> 00:37:42,726 ANNOUNCER: He is officially a professional fighter. 774 00:37:42,728 --> 00:37:46,596 He can go these 14, and he will be able to go the 15 rounds. 775 00:37:46,598 --> 00:37:48,832 ANNOUNCER: Dwight Muhammad Qawi who yesterday called 776 00:37:48,834 --> 00:37:51,534 Evander Holyfield mediocre would not 777 00:37:51,536 --> 00:37:53,937 be saying that to us right now. 778 00:37:53,939 --> 00:37:54,904 [dinging] 779 00:37:54,906 --> 00:37:56,373 ANNOUNCER: And there's the final bell! 780 00:37:59,778 --> 00:38:01,511 -I didn't die. 781 00:38:01,513 --> 00:38:03,880 I made it to the land, and then they 782 00:38:03,882 --> 00:38:06,616 gave me a bonus by giving me the belt. 783 00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:09,819 ANNOUNCER: For the winner and new junior heavyweight champion 784 00:38:09,821 --> 00:38:12,055 of the world, Evander Holyfield! 785 00:38:17,529 --> 00:38:18,995 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: After that, I was 786 00:38:18,997 --> 00:38:20,363 the light heavyweight champion. 787 00:38:20,365 --> 00:38:21,498 But my goal. 788 00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:22,599 I never forgot it. 789 00:38:22,601 --> 00:38:24,801 My goal was to be the heavyweight champion 790 00:38:24,803 --> 00:38:26,369 of the world. 791 00:38:26,371 --> 00:38:28,738 -Evander Holyfield started as light heavyweight, which 792 00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:31,775 is, you know, kinda like being the vice 793 00:38:31,777 --> 00:38:33,743 president of the United States. 794 00:38:33,745 --> 00:38:38,848 It's-- It's not-- You don't get a lot of attention. 795 00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:43,053 -When you talk about boxing, for most people, 796 00:38:43,055 --> 00:38:45,188 you're talking about the heavyweight division. 797 00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:48,358 The heavyweight champion of the world is an icon. 798 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,727 ANNOUNCER: This is the event of the night. 799 00:38:50,729 --> 00:38:54,698 The WBC championship of the world. 800 00:38:54,700 --> 00:39:01,004 In the blue corner, with 27 wins, no defeats, 25 KOs, 801 00:39:01,006 --> 00:39:05,709 he is the challenger, Mike Tyson! 802 00:39:05,711 --> 00:39:11,014 And in the red corner, he is the WBC heavyweight champion 803 00:39:11,016 --> 00:39:14,250 of the world, Trevor Berbick. 804 00:39:17,255 --> 00:39:20,223 MILLS LANE: Any questions from the challenger or chief second? 805 00:39:20,225 --> 00:39:21,358 -No, we're cool. 806 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,226 -Any question the champion or chief second? 807 00:39:23,228 --> 00:39:24,394 All right, let's get it on! 808 00:39:24,396 --> 00:39:25,695 Come on. ANNOUNCER: All right. 809 00:39:25,697 --> 00:39:27,197 And with the word of Mills Lane, we're ready. 810 00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:29,366 I don't know about you folks, but here at the Hilton Hotel, 811 00:39:29,368 --> 00:39:31,167 there is electricity in the crowd. 812 00:39:31,169 --> 00:39:34,170 Mike Tyson has trained his whole life for this. 813 00:39:34,172 --> 00:39:37,173 And let's watch how quick Tyson will jump on Trevor Berbick. 814 00:39:37,175 --> 00:39:39,142 You get the idea now that Berbick 815 00:39:39,144 --> 00:39:41,644 is showing a little bravado here. 816 00:39:41,646 --> 00:39:44,147 And Tyson clubs him with the left hand. 817 00:39:44,149 --> 00:39:45,115 Look at this! 818 00:39:45,117 --> 00:39:46,316 Combination! 819 00:39:46,318 --> 00:39:48,618 And Berbick ready to go, but he stays on his feet. 820 00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:50,120 Another right hand clips him. 821 00:39:50,122 --> 00:39:52,589 He can't take shots like this very long. 822 00:39:52,591 --> 00:39:54,591 And he gets [inaudible], and he's done! 823 00:39:54,593 --> 00:39:56,593 As he stands right up, the count's 824 00:39:56,595 --> 00:39:59,062 to four, and five, and six, and seven, 825 00:39:59,064 --> 00:40:00,764 and eight, and he says he's OK. 826 00:40:00,766 --> 00:40:01,865 -All right? 827 00:40:01,867 --> 00:40:04,067 ANNOUNCER: Mills Lane let's them continue. 828 00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:05,535 In comes Tyson again. 829 00:40:05,537 --> 00:40:07,036 He knows he can hurt him any time. 830 00:40:07,038 --> 00:40:09,038 Catches him with a right left hook, and he goes down! 831 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,073 He goes down! 832 00:40:10,075 --> 00:40:12,008 He should be able to get up from this. 833 00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:13,209 His legs maybe shot. 834 00:40:13,211 --> 00:40:14,277 They are! 835 00:40:14,279 --> 00:40:16,513 As Trevor Berbick falls back in the ropes, 836 00:40:16,515 --> 00:40:18,481 I don't know if he's gonna be able to continue! 837 00:40:18,483 --> 00:40:20,750 He's got the heart, but his body won't 838 00:40:20,752 --> 00:40:22,986 let him do what his mind wants to. 839 00:40:22,988 --> 00:40:24,954 And he's counted out. 840 00:40:24,956 --> 00:40:26,456 It's all over. 841 00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:28,658 We've got a brand new heavyweight champion 842 00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:29,459 of the world. 843 00:40:29,461 --> 00:40:30,460 Mike Tyson! 844 00:40:34,433 --> 00:40:38,034 MIKE TYSON: That was the most exciting moment of my life. 845 00:40:38,036 --> 00:40:40,503 People patting me on the back and saying, wow, you're great. 846 00:40:40,505 --> 00:40:41,938 I never saw anybody like you before. 847 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,840 It was incredible. 848 00:40:43,842 --> 00:40:47,177 How am I gonna articulate this? 849 00:40:47,179 --> 00:40:50,013 All I did about being the champion and stuff, 850 00:40:50,015 --> 00:40:51,614 this is very serious, since I was 13. 851 00:40:51,616 --> 00:40:53,483 This isn't be like, hey, we're gonna 852 00:40:53,485 --> 00:40:54,717 box and get some trophies, guys. 853 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,019 No. 854 00:40:56,021 --> 00:40:57,921 Our purpose is to win and win in spectacular fashion. 855 00:40:57,923 --> 00:41:00,924 [MUSIC PUBLIC ENEMY, "WELCOME TO THE TERRORDOME"] 856 00:41:08,934 --> 00:41:10,366 CURTIS JACKSON: Mike did something special. 857 00:41:10,368 --> 00:41:13,736 He convinced me that no man on the planet could beat him. 858 00:41:13,738 --> 00:41:15,071 You could get up and go to the bathroom, 859 00:41:15,073 --> 00:41:16,840 come back, the fucking fight over. 860 00:41:16,842 --> 00:41:18,508 NAAZIM RICHARDSON: Mike got a bad rep in the sense 861 00:41:18,510 --> 00:41:21,678 that people concentrated on intimidation. 862 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,879 The only way you're intimidated is 863 00:41:22,881 --> 00:41:25,248 because you seen him do something. 864 00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:27,784 When you see somebody knock out 22 other people, 865 00:41:27,786 --> 00:41:30,687 yeah, the 23rd guy may be a little intimidated. 866 00:41:30,689 --> 00:41:33,590 LOU DIBELLA: He was unstoppable force of nature. 867 00:41:33,592 --> 00:41:36,326 I mean, I still in my head have visions of Welcome 868 00:41:36,328 --> 00:41:38,795 to the Terrordome being played where Tyson was walking 869 00:41:38,797 --> 00:41:41,431 into the ring twitching with no socks on, 870 00:41:41,433 --> 00:41:43,399 and the guy standing in the ring looked 871 00:41:43,401 --> 00:41:44,501 like he was shitting his pants. 872 00:41:47,038 --> 00:41:49,372 -Don King told him, every time that you knock somebody 873 00:41:49,374 --> 00:41:52,242 out in the first round, I give you $100,000 in cash. 874 00:41:52,244 --> 00:41:54,210 ANNOUNCER: And he's down again. 875 00:41:54,212 --> 00:41:56,179 ANNOUNCER: He's not going to make it. 876 00:41:56,181 --> 00:41:58,548 It's all over. 877 00:41:58,550 --> 00:42:01,484 MARK WAHLBERG: First big fight I went to was a Tyson fight, 878 00:42:01,486 --> 00:42:03,253 and there was nothing more exciting than that. 879 00:42:03,255 --> 00:42:05,655 -He put on a show. 880 00:42:05,657 --> 00:42:08,525 When the lights came on, Mike just knew, this is my moment. 881 00:42:08,527 --> 00:42:10,760 Everybody's watching me right now. 882 00:42:10,762 --> 00:42:11,661 -It was crazy in there. 883 00:42:11,663 --> 00:42:12,529 Just great energy. 884 00:42:12,531 --> 00:42:13,930 Unbelievable energy. 885 00:42:13,932 --> 00:42:15,431 CRAIG JONES: Every time we'd get home, Mike said, well who came? 886 00:42:15,433 --> 00:42:16,566 How did they look like? 887 00:42:16,568 --> 00:42:19,469 He just wanted to know, what was the crowd like. 888 00:42:19,471 --> 00:42:21,104 And it's hard to explain it to him. 889 00:42:21,106 --> 00:42:23,439 You see Eddie Murphy, you see Donald Trump. 890 00:42:23,441 --> 00:42:26,209 You see so many big people in the audience. 891 00:42:26,211 --> 00:42:28,945 Like, if you was in that front three or four rows, 892 00:42:28,947 --> 00:42:30,346 you were somebody. 893 00:42:30,348 --> 00:42:32,549 -Tyson was superhuman. 894 00:42:32,551 --> 00:42:35,318 He represented our culture. 895 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,586 He represented who we were. 896 00:42:36,588 --> 00:42:37,820 Mike Tyson was a phenom. 897 00:42:37,822 --> 00:42:39,289 Everybody heard about him. 898 00:42:39,291 --> 00:42:42,659 -Mike Tyson represents in the community the American dream, 899 00:42:42,661 --> 00:42:46,162 that anybody can make it if they have the determination. 900 00:42:46,164 --> 00:42:47,397 MIKE TYSON: Cus put me in the mindset 901 00:42:47,399 --> 00:42:48,898 that there's no room for everybody. 902 00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:50,466 I need to suck all the air. 903 00:42:50,468 --> 00:42:52,001 I need to reign with gods. 904 00:42:52,003 --> 00:42:54,037 REPORTER: Do you ever stop to think about money? 905 00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:55,538 MIKE TYSON: The stage of thinking about money 906 00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:56,639 is far gone. 907 00:42:56,641 --> 00:42:58,608 I don't have to worry about that no more. 908 00:42:58,610 --> 00:42:59,842 I'm just having fun. 909 00:42:59,844 --> 00:43:03,746 -They were able to sell Mike Tyson very effectively. 910 00:43:03,748 --> 00:43:06,783 He delivered, of course, because he scored all these knock outs, 911 00:43:06,785 --> 00:43:09,586 and you got this feeling of caged fury. 912 00:43:09,588 --> 00:43:13,656 -In our era, what would boxing have been without Mike Tyson? 913 00:43:13,658 --> 00:43:15,158 Could you say it would've been this exciting? 914 00:43:18,163 --> 00:43:21,664 After Ali, people stopped liking boxing. 915 00:43:21,666 --> 00:43:26,135 It don't bother me to say that I was in the right time, 916 00:43:26,137 --> 00:43:27,403 with Tyson. 917 00:43:27,405 --> 00:43:32,308 That's when the fire came back in the game of boxing. 918 00:43:32,310 --> 00:43:35,011 BERNARD HOPKINS: When Tyson came in the game, 919 00:43:35,013 --> 00:43:39,248 boxing became one of the most popular, 920 00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:43,486 if not the popular sport outside the walls of Graterford. 921 00:43:43,488 --> 00:43:45,154 We used to watch fights on ABC. 922 00:43:45,156 --> 00:43:48,091 We used to watch fights on ESPN. 923 00:43:48,093 --> 00:43:51,728 Alexis Arguello and the fighters that was hot. 924 00:43:51,730 --> 00:43:53,896 And I'm like, yo. 925 00:43:53,898 --> 00:43:54,998 I can beat these guys. 926 00:44:01,606 --> 00:44:10,413 For myself to come out and be paroled to a halfway house, 927 00:44:10,415 --> 00:44:15,184 I said to myself, I gotta make boxing work. 928 00:44:15,186 --> 00:44:19,722 I knew that this is the only thing that I had to gamble. 929 00:44:24,562 --> 00:44:27,597 -Most guys go back when you're in that situation. 930 00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:29,465 When they lock you up when you're like 17, 931 00:44:29,467 --> 00:44:31,567 and you get out when you're like 23, 24, 932 00:44:31,569 --> 00:44:34,303 now you're thrown into the adult world 933 00:44:34,305 --> 00:44:37,774 with no job skills, nothing but a record on your back. 934 00:44:37,776 --> 00:44:40,410 Plus, little guy you seen on your block, 935 00:44:40,412 --> 00:44:43,846 he comes past you in a brand new car with a gold chain 936 00:44:43,848 --> 00:44:45,915 big enough for you to see your reflection in. 937 00:44:45,917 --> 00:44:47,517 That's hard to deal with. 938 00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:50,219 -When you go away, if you come back into the same environment, 939 00:44:50,221 --> 00:44:52,855 around the same circumstances, around the same people 940 00:44:52,857 --> 00:44:55,058 that you're comfortable making these decisions around, 941 00:44:55,060 --> 00:44:58,628 and you have influences that make things easy for you to be 942 00:44:58,630 --> 00:45:02,832 in a bad situation, temptation is great. 943 00:45:02,834 --> 00:45:06,102 It's the same if you're trying not to be involved with drugs. 944 00:45:06,104 --> 00:45:07,637 REPORTER: Because of its low price, 945 00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:11,307 crack permeates the country, especially the inner cities. 946 00:45:11,309 --> 00:45:14,844 -When the crack came into and flooded the streets, 947 00:45:14,846 --> 00:45:18,014 it was just hard to say no. 948 00:45:18,016 --> 00:45:20,216 The crack era affected everybody. 949 00:45:20,218 --> 00:45:23,186 If you lived in that area where they sold it, 950 00:45:23,188 --> 00:45:25,321 you were going to be involved. 951 00:45:25,323 --> 00:45:26,656 -You're looking at your environment 952 00:45:26,658 --> 00:45:27,724 and no one's helping you. 953 00:45:27,726 --> 00:45:29,025 No one's doing anything. 954 00:45:29,027 --> 00:45:30,993 Just feeding you the drugs, feeding you the alcohol, 955 00:45:30,995 --> 00:45:32,762 feeding you the negative comments. 956 00:45:32,764 --> 00:45:35,465 They're doing exactly what was done to you as a child, 957 00:45:35,467 --> 00:45:37,700 so you have to shift and change your environment. 958 00:45:37,702 --> 00:45:38,501 Do something. 959 00:45:38,503 --> 00:45:40,136 Change something. 960 00:45:40,138 --> 00:45:41,871 NAAZIM RICHARDSON: For Bernard to not violate parole 961 00:45:41,873 --> 00:45:44,907 during that era, during that time, was the most impressive 962 00:45:44,909 --> 00:45:46,309 to me. 963 00:45:46,311 --> 00:45:50,046 He dealt with it, he came home, he was able to move forward. 964 00:45:50,048 --> 00:45:52,081 He realized it wasn't the life for him. 965 00:45:52,083 --> 00:45:54,150 He was gonna make sure it wouldn't happen to him. 966 00:45:54,152 --> 00:45:58,321 -How can I beat the system? 967 00:45:58,323 --> 00:45:59,122 I fought. 968 00:45:59,124 --> 00:46:00,423 I worked. 969 00:46:00,425 --> 00:46:01,457 I worked in a kitchen. 970 00:46:01,459 --> 00:46:03,726 I worked on landscaping. 971 00:46:03,728 --> 00:46:04,594 I did roofing. 972 00:46:04,596 --> 00:46:07,296 I found some new people. 973 00:46:07,298 --> 00:46:09,532 Those new people got me into boxing 974 00:46:09,534 --> 00:46:12,401 as far as on the business side. 975 00:46:12,403 --> 00:46:14,904 I was the only fighter to my knowledge 976 00:46:14,906 --> 00:46:20,209 to take a team of trainers and go to Graterford, 977 00:46:20,211 --> 00:46:26,682 and train and use that environment to remind me 978 00:46:26,684 --> 00:46:29,585 where I came from. 979 00:46:29,587 --> 00:46:31,788 AL BERNSTEIN: I think it speaks volumes about Bernard 980 00:46:31,790 --> 00:46:36,793 and how he looks at life that he went back to prison 981 00:46:36,795 --> 00:46:40,630 with his team, looked at the situation, and know, 982 00:46:40,632 --> 00:46:44,367 this is what I do not want to fall back into. 983 00:46:44,369 --> 00:46:45,668 -There were athletes who came along 984 00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:47,637 who had better talent than Bernard. 985 00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:48,771 There were athletes who came along 986 00:46:48,773 --> 00:46:51,674 who had better positions, better situations. 987 00:46:51,676 --> 00:46:55,411 His discipline has set him apart. 988 00:46:55,413 --> 00:46:56,846 ANNOUNCER: And the new IBF middleweight 989 00:46:56,848 --> 00:47:00,516 champion of the world, Barnard Hopkins! 990 00:47:05,456 --> 00:47:08,691 BERNARD HOPKINS: I won my first title in 1994. 991 00:47:08,693 --> 00:47:12,795 From there, I went on to defend the middleweight championship 992 00:47:12,797 --> 00:47:14,797 for 11 years. 993 00:47:14,799 --> 00:47:17,733 ANNOUNCER: Oscar de la Hoya is knocked out 994 00:47:17,735 --> 00:47:22,171 by a left hook to the liver by Bernard Hopkins. 995 00:47:25,076 --> 00:47:26,209 NAAZIM RICHARDSON: Bernard Hopkins 996 00:47:26,211 --> 00:47:28,177 is our Ray Robinson of this era. 997 00:47:28,179 --> 00:47:30,646 Those guys were cut from a different cloth. 998 00:47:30,648 --> 00:47:31,881 The ones who could sustain. 999 00:47:31,883 --> 00:47:35,251 ANNOUNCER: Tonight you have witnessed history. 1000 00:47:35,253 --> 00:47:36,953 Boxing's ageless warrior. 1001 00:47:36,955 --> 00:47:38,354 Bernard Hopkins! 1002 00:47:43,428 --> 00:47:47,930 -He became the oldest fighter to win a world title, at an age 48 1003 00:47:47,932 --> 00:47:52,134 when it's almost impossible to imagine a fighter doing this. 1004 00:47:52,136 --> 00:47:53,536 NAAZIM RICHARDSON: Bernard walked and kept 1005 00:47:53,538 --> 00:47:56,672 that middleweight weight for 20 title defenses. 1006 00:47:56,674 --> 00:47:58,908 20 title defenses. 1007 00:47:58,910 --> 00:48:00,843 That's gonna be a hard record to break. 1008 00:48:00,845 --> 00:48:03,145 -He's just always represented a hungry fighter that's 1009 00:48:03,147 --> 00:48:06,215 dedicated and put in a lot of work. 1010 00:48:06,217 --> 00:48:10,019 You can just tell he didn't get anything handed to him. 1011 00:48:10,021 --> 00:48:12,455 -Bernard Hopkins, to me, is a testament to the fact 1012 00:48:12,457 --> 00:48:16,792 that anyone can reshape their thinking, 1013 00:48:16,794 --> 00:48:19,929 can reshape their life, and continue 1014 00:48:19,931 --> 00:48:22,064 to live that reshaped life. 1015 00:48:22,066 --> 00:48:25,501 The Bernard Hopkins that I've known all these years 1016 00:48:25,503 --> 00:48:28,337 and the man who resurrected his life 1017 00:48:28,339 --> 00:48:32,541 is an absolute pillar of self discipline. 1018 00:48:32,543 --> 00:48:36,746 -What saved me was knowing that I can do this, and to be 1019 00:48:36,748 --> 00:48:38,114 able to do this in a penitentiary. 1020 00:48:40,685 --> 00:48:43,486 Those stages are critical, for me. 1021 00:48:43,488 --> 00:48:45,254 To be able to come through that era 1022 00:48:45,256 --> 00:48:49,158 and come through that time with the scars, 1023 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,529 but I used it to motivate me in a different way. 1024 00:48:53,531 --> 00:48:56,899 It took time to get there. 1025 00:48:56,901 --> 00:48:58,701 -Bernard Hopkins is very lucky to have boxing 1026 00:48:58,703 --> 00:48:59,835 and to capitalize on it. 1027 00:48:59,837 --> 00:49:01,871 He had it, and then he took advantage of it. 1028 00:49:01,873 --> 00:49:05,408 People who don't have those options, it gets very bleak. 1029 00:49:05,410 --> 00:49:07,109 We've cut back on a lot of the educational options, 1030 00:49:07,111 --> 00:49:08,611 we've cut back on a lot of the facilities, 1031 00:49:08,613 --> 00:49:10,446 we've cut back on time out in the yard. 1032 00:49:10,448 --> 00:49:12,915 We've cut back on spots. 1033 00:49:12,917 --> 00:49:14,383 BERNARD HOPKINS: Energized inmates 1034 00:49:14,385 --> 00:49:16,819 use their energy in the right direction 1035 00:49:16,821 --> 00:49:18,654 by going to the boxing circle. 1036 00:49:18,656 --> 00:49:24,160 It releases energy that won't be released 1037 00:49:24,162 --> 00:49:28,464 on authority or on other inmates. 1038 00:49:28,466 --> 00:49:31,067 -Those kinds of programs are no longer 1039 00:49:31,069 --> 00:49:33,569 available in today's prisons. 1040 00:49:33,571 --> 00:49:36,339 Today's prisons are more about punishment 1041 00:49:36,341 --> 00:49:40,076 rather than recognizing the mistakes individuals may have 1042 00:49:40,078 --> 00:49:44,313 made and helping them grow from them. 1043 00:49:44,315 --> 00:49:46,782 JOHN PFAFF: Sometimes we completely perverse things. 1044 00:49:46,784 --> 00:49:48,985 In New York state, at least, the single most popular training 1045 00:49:48,987 --> 00:49:50,886 program in prison is barber school. 1046 00:49:50,888 --> 00:49:52,121 So you have thousands of men training 1047 00:49:52,123 --> 00:49:54,156 to be barbers in prison. 1048 00:49:54,158 --> 00:49:56,792 It's actually giving them a job to do while they're in prison, 1049 00:49:56,794 --> 00:49:58,194 providing actually a useful skill 1050 00:49:58,196 --> 00:49:59,595 they can use on the outside, only 1051 00:49:59,597 --> 00:50:00,830 they're not allowed to use it at all. 1052 00:50:00,832 --> 00:50:03,332 People on parole, ex-felons, can't be barbers. 1053 00:50:03,334 --> 00:50:04,867 Blanket ban for licensing. 1054 00:50:04,869 --> 00:50:07,003 Once you get into that system, we're actually setting you up 1055 00:50:07,005 --> 00:50:09,171 even more to fail down the line. 1056 00:50:09,173 --> 00:50:11,107 They just keep making it tougher and tougher, 1057 00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:13,442 and then shaking their heads in disappointment when they fail, 1058 00:50:13,444 --> 00:50:16,145 and making it tougher still. 1059 00:50:16,147 --> 00:50:18,681 DAVID LEONARD: Activist Angela Davis describes prisons 1060 00:50:18,683 --> 00:50:21,417 as this place where we don't make problems 1061 00:50:21,419 --> 00:50:23,819 disappear, we make people disappear. 1062 00:50:23,821 --> 00:50:27,957 We want to think of ourselves as never making mistakes, 1063 00:50:27,959 --> 00:50:31,394 and so when confronted with individuals who make mistakes, 1064 00:50:31,396 --> 00:50:32,695 we're forced to look in the mirror. 1065 00:50:40,071 --> 00:50:41,871 LOU DIBELLA: Muhammad Ali in his prime 1066 00:50:41,873 --> 00:50:44,106 was served by his character. 1067 00:50:44,108 --> 00:50:46,442 Mike Tyson didn't have that character. 1068 00:50:46,444 --> 00:50:49,345 He had tremendous ferocity, tremendous ability, god given 1069 00:50:49,347 --> 00:50:51,113 strength, but the people around him 1070 00:50:51,115 --> 00:50:53,616 weren't encouraging him to develop character. 1071 00:50:53,618 --> 00:50:57,553 They were enabling him, in a lot of ways, to destroy himself. 1072 00:50:57,555 --> 00:50:59,255 GEORGE WILLIS: His only real mentors 1073 00:50:59,257 --> 00:51:02,124 were his managers and his trainers. 1074 00:51:02,126 --> 00:51:04,460 They weren't really trying to teach him 1075 00:51:04,462 --> 00:51:08,931 a lot of social skills other than how to deal with media. 1076 00:51:08,933 --> 00:51:12,268 LARRY SLOMAN: People treat you differently when you're famous. 1077 00:51:12,270 --> 00:51:15,805 Fame really distorts your own perception of yourself. 1078 00:51:15,807 --> 00:51:17,239 -Just think. 1079 00:51:17,241 --> 00:51:19,108 Anybody in this planet with 6 billion 1080 00:51:19,110 --> 00:51:22,144 people-- 6 billion right? 1081 00:51:22,146 --> 00:51:23,979 Anybody in this planet, you could 1082 00:51:23,981 --> 00:51:26,649 beat them in a fair fight. 1083 00:51:26,651 --> 00:51:30,252 You tell me how that'd feed your ego. 1084 00:51:30,254 --> 00:51:31,387 LARRY SLOMAN: He starts buying all 1085 00:51:31,389 --> 00:51:32,888 these incredible sports cars. 1086 00:51:32,890 --> 00:51:35,958 He buys Bentleys, he buys Rolls Royces, 1087 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,427 and he starts buying these mansions, 1088 00:51:38,429 --> 00:51:40,629 and of course, it's conspicuous consumption. 1089 00:51:40,631 --> 00:51:44,533 He's showing the world, look how far he's come. 1090 00:51:44,535 --> 00:51:47,436 MIKE TYSON: My life only existed through accomplishments. 1091 00:51:47,438 --> 00:51:49,371 You win this, you get this car. 1092 00:51:49,373 --> 00:51:50,639 You when this, you get this. 1093 00:51:50,641 --> 00:51:52,575 You win this, you get that. 1094 00:51:52,577 --> 00:51:54,243 BERNARD HOPKINS: And you have that much money, 1095 00:51:54,245 --> 00:51:56,846 everything's possible. 1096 00:51:56,848 --> 00:51:58,414 SPIKE LEE: The media was creating this image, 1097 00:51:58,416 --> 00:52:00,950 but Mike was helping them with the image 1098 00:52:00,952 --> 00:52:03,018 that he was just a savage, a wild man. 1099 00:52:03,020 --> 00:52:04,954 MIKE TYSON: I'll fuck you in your ass, you punk white boy. 1100 00:52:04,956 --> 00:52:08,757 I'll eat your asshole alive, you bitch. 1101 00:52:08,759 --> 00:52:09,558 I became a megalomaniac. 1102 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,094 I thought I was a god. 1103 00:52:12,096 --> 00:52:14,063 If you were old enough, you may have seen some of my fights 1104 00:52:14,065 --> 00:52:15,731 and some of the things I said to people 1105 00:52:15,733 --> 00:52:19,668 or said about myself as some kind of demigod or something. 1106 00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:20,769 I'm a tyrannosaurus, man. 1107 00:52:20,771 --> 00:52:22,371 I'm a tyrannical titan. 1108 00:52:22,373 --> 00:52:23,739 I'm the best ever. 1109 00:52:23,741 --> 00:52:25,074 There's never been anybody as ruthless. 1110 00:52:25,076 --> 00:52:26,475 That's just the way I was trained 1111 00:52:26,477 --> 00:52:29,945 to fight to have that kind of belief system. 1112 00:52:29,947 --> 00:52:32,481 -We all heard those stories of people that have had nothing 1113 00:52:32,483 --> 00:52:34,817 and then had it all and didn't know how to handle it. 1114 00:52:34,819 --> 00:52:37,119 It's one thing to be able to have that drive and that desire 1115 00:52:37,121 --> 00:52:39,555 to become a champion, but to stay hungry 1116 00:52:39,557 --> 00:52:45,327 when you have that success, it becomes that much harder. 1117 00:52:45,329 --> 00:52:48,330 AL BERNSTEIN: We think of him as this monster with huge power. 1118 00:52:48,332 --> 00:52:53,769 And he did have power, but Mike Tyson was a small heavyweight 1119 00:52:53,771 --> 00:52:58,741 who needed to fight well to be effective. 1120 00:52:58,743 --> 00:53:01,377 A Mike Tyson that isn't perfectly conditioned, 1121 00:53:01,379 --> 00:53:04,780 and a Mike Tyson that isn't fighting the right style, 1122 00:53:04,782 --> 00:53:06,815 he's beatable. 1123 00:53:06,817 --> 00:53:08,884 ANNOUNCER: Please welcome the challenger, 1124 00:53:08,886 --> 00:53:09,818 James Buster Douglas! 1125 00:53:15,626 --> 00:53:17,826 AL BERNSTEIN: No one expected Mike 1126 00:53:17,828 --> 00:53:20,162 Tyson to lose to Buster Douglas. 1127 00:53:20,164 --> 00:53:21,830 The odds were astronomical. 1128 00:53:21,832 --> 00:53:26,068 ANNOUNCER: Introducing the undefeated, undisputed 1129 00:53:26,070 --> 00:53:28,470 heavyweight champion of the world. 1130 00:53:28,472 --> 00:53:33,008 The one and only iron Mike Tyson! 1131 00:53:36,113 --> 00:53:38,847 AL BERNSTEIN: It was in Japan, and most news organizations 1132 00:53:38,849 --> 00:53:41,250 didn't even send anybody to cover the fight. 1133 00:53:41,252 --> 00:53:42,051 -Larry. 1134 00:53:42,053 --> 00:53:43,419 What are we about to see? 1135 00:53:43,421 --> 00:53:48,023 Another 90 second annihilation of an ill prepared opponent? 1136 00:53:48,025 --> 00:53:50,459 -Well, in the important game of expectations, 1137 00:53:50,461 --> 00:53:54,263 this fight is over before it begins or soon thereafter. 1138 00:53:54,265 --> 00:53:57,266 You have to remember that just nobody believes 1139 00:53:57,268 --> 00:54:00,069 anybody can compete with Mike Tyson. 1140 00:54:00,071 --> 00:54:02,905 ANNOUNCER: And there, of course, is Evander Holyfield 1141 00:54:02,907 --> 00:54:05,507 who has a guarantee of $12 million 1142 00:54:05,509 --> 00:54:08,010 to fight Mike Tyson in June. 1143 00:54:08,012 --> 00:54:09,411 AL BERNSTEIN: Everyone was looking forward 1144 00:54:09,413 --> 00:54:11,714 to Mike Tyson fighting Evander Holyfield. 1145 00:54:11,716 --> 00:54:14,116 I watched the Douglas Tyson fight 1146 00:54:14,118 --> 00:54:16,085 with Donald Trump and his executives. 1147 00:54:16,087 --> 00:54:18,687 They were expecting that Tyson Holyfield 1148 00:54:18,689 --> 00:54:20,589 fight to be on one of their properties 1149 00:54:20,591 --> 00:54:22,791 and would be a major event for them. 1150 00:54:22,793 --> 00:54:25,794 LARRY SLOMAN: Mike went kicking and screaming to Tokyo. 1151 00:54:25,796 --> 00:54:29,398 He thought, I knocked out guys that beat Buster Douglas, so 1152 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,201 why do I have to train for Buster Douglas. 1153 00:54:32,203 --> 00:54:35,638 So he got there and he didn't train. 1154 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:42,077 And he instead enjoyed all the fruits of young Japanese women 1155 00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:43,178 there. 1156 00:54:43,180 --> 00:54:45,681 GEORGE WILLIS: Buster had nothing to lose, 1157 00:54:45,683 --> 00:54:48,017 and he was training his heart out. 1158 00:54:48,019 --> 00:54:50,686 Evander saw this and he knew trouble 1159 00:54:50,688 --> 00:54:51,954 might be on the horizon. 1160 00:54:51,956 --> 00:54:54,390 ANNOUNCER: Douglas is getting Mike Tyson to reach in. 1161 00:54:54,392 --> 00:54:55,891 When you reach in, that's what happens. 1162 00:54:55,893 --> 00:54:58,127 ANNOUNCER: That's a good right hand, and a good right 1163 00:54:58,129 --> 00:55:01,363 uppercut, and two more good rights by Douglas. 1164 00:55:01,365 --> 00:55:04,833 I don't think I've ever seen Tyson absorb that kind 1165 00:55:04,835 --> 00:55:07,303 of a four or five punch combination 1166 00:55:07,305 --> 00:55:09,505 before in his professional career. 1167 00:55:09,507 --> 00:55:11,974 And he has swelled up Mike Tyson's eye 1168 00:55:11,976 --> 00:55:15,911 and is dominating the fight right now. 1169 00:55:15,913 --> 00:55:18,080 AL BERNSTEIN: It was a perfect storm of events. 1170 00:55:18,082 --> 00:55:21,483 It was Mike Tyson not taking Buster Douglas as seriously 1171 00:55:21,485 --> 00:55:23,352 as he should have, and it was Buster 1172 00:55:23,354 --> 00:55:25,454 Douglas preparing himself correctly. 1173 00:55:25,456 --> 00:55:26,655 ANNOUNCER: Brawling willingly just 1174 00:55:26,657 --> 00:55:28,924 to try to get in the shot that will finish things. 1175 00:55:28,926 --> 00:55:30,426 ANNOUNCER: Oh, the uppercut! 1176 00:55:30,428 --> 00:55:32,895 ANNOUNCER: What an uppercut by Douglas, and down goes Tyson! 1177 00:55:40,271 --> 00:55:43,238 Down goes Tyson. 1178 00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:52,614 -Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine! 1179 00:55:52,616 --> 00:55:54,083 ANNOUNCER: He's-- Well, it-- It's over! 1180 00:55:54,085 --> 00:55:55,217 ANNOUNCER: It's over! 1181 00:55:55,219 --> 00:55:56,719 ANNOUNCER: Mike Tyson has been knocked out! 1182 00:55:56,721 --> 00:55:57,519 Unbelievable! 1183 00:56:02,693 --> 00:56:03,992 LOU DIBELLA: There are a lot of lessons 1184 00:56:03,994 --> 00:56:06,462 fighters learn the hard way. 1185 00:56:06,464 --> 00:56:08,263 Every fighter comes to know the fact 1186 00:56:08,265 --> 00:56:11,867 that this is an unforgiving sport. 1187 00:56:11,869 --> 00:56:13,836 ANNOUNCER: And suddenly, Mike Tyson 1188 00:56:13,838 --> 00:56:17,506 has been reduced to being another heavyweight champion 1189 00:56:17,508 --> 00:56:21,243 who got defeated. 1190 00:56:21,245 --> 00:56:22,611 LOU DIBELLA: There's no other sport where 1191 00:56:22,613 --> 00:56:24,780 you can rise and fall so quickly. 1192 00:56:28,853 --> 00:56:30,753 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: When I became the heavyweight champion 1193 00:56:30,755 --> 00:56:35,090 of the world for the first time with Buster Douglas, 1194 00:56:35,092 --> 00:56:37,760 people hated the fact. 1195 00:56:37,762 --> 00:56:39,728 ANNOUNCER: [inaudible] Holyfield-- right 1196 00:56:39,730 --> 00:56:41,196 hand stuns Douglas! 1197 00:56:41,198 --> 00:56:42,631 ANNOUNCER: Caught him going in! 1198 00:56:42,633 --> 00:56:45,067 He is not going to get up. 1199 00:56:45,069 --> 00:56:48,003 There goes the heavyweight championship of the world! 1200 00:56:48,005 --> 00:56:50,606 ANNOUNCER: Evander Holyfield with a third round knock out! 1201 00:56:50,608 --> 00:56:52,808 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: They said, you can't get no credibility. 1202 00:56:52,810 --> 00:56:55,511 Man, you still ain't the champ. 1203 00:56:55,513 --> 00:56:58,147 You ain't beat Tyson. 1204 00:56:58,149 --> 00:56:59,882 REPORTER: An Indiana grand jury has indicted 1205 00:56:59,884 --> 00:57:02,418 former heavyweight boxing champ Mike Tyson. 1206 00:57:02,420 --> 00:57:04,520 He is charged with raping a woman who 1207 00:57:04,522 --> 00:57:05,954 was a contestant in this summer's 1208 00:57:05,956 --> 00:57:07,689 Miss Black America pageant. 1209 00:57:07,691 --> 00:57:09,024 REPORTER: Within the past hour, the jury 1210 00:57:09,026 --> 00:57:10,492 has returned for indictments. 1211 00:57:10,494 --> 00:57:13,796 One for rape, two charges of criminal deviant conduct, 1212 00:57:13,798 --> 00:57:15,030 and one charge of confinement. 1213 00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:26,041 -If I was in here for something that I did, it would be easier, 1214 00:57:26,043 --> 00:57:29,445 but just the fact that I'm in here for something I didn't do 1215 00:57:29,447 --> 00:57:31,747 and I'm innocent, every day I'm walking 1216 00:57:31,749 --> 00:57:33,081 a thin line through hell. 1217 00:57:33,083 --> 00:57:35,284 I thought prison was for the rehabilitation 1218 00:57:35,286 --> 00:57:37,486 of men or women, so to speak. 1219 00:57:37,488 --> 00:57:38,454 That's what I always thought. 1220 00:57:38,456 --> 00:57:39,421 That's what they always say. 1221 00:57:39,423 --> 00:57:40,656 We send you here and we rehabilitate 1222 00:57:40,658 --> 00:57:42,357 you so you won't do it again. 1223 00:57:42,359 --> 00:57:45,627 People come out of prison, they come out in worse condition 1224 00:57:45,629 --> 00:57:47,596 than they was when they first entered. 1225 00:57:47,598 --> 00:57:49,631 ANNOUNCER: In the lackluster heavyweight division, even 1226 00:57:49,633 --> 00:57:53,068 without his crown, Tyson is still the man. 1227 00:57:53,070 --> 00:57:55,370 Promoters even courted him at the prison, 1228 00:57:55,372 --> 00:57:58,207 hoping to share an estimated $100 million payday. 1229 00:58:02,379 --> 00:58:03,879 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: Waiting for my opportunity 1230 00:58:03,881 --> 00:58:06,482 to get a chance to fight him, there's a lot of writers, 1231 00:58:06,484 --> 00:58:09,518 in general, that think that really he's the champ. 1232 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,920 But realistic, I am the champ. 1233 00:58:11,922 --> 00:58:12,754 I have the belt. 1234 00:58:16,093 --> 00:58:18,427 REPORTER: Long before dawn, news helicopters 1235 00:58:18,429 --> 00:58:21,430 hovered over the state prison, and cameras were ready. 1236 00:58:21,432 --> 00:58:23,832 Hundreds of them from around the world. 1237 00:58:23,834 --> 00:58:25,534 Tyson issued a written statement. 1238 00:58:25,536 --> 00:58:28,170 I'm very happy to be out and on my way home. 1239 00:58:28,172 --> 00:58:29,805 I will have more to say later. 1240 00:58:34,445 --> 00:58:36,645 GEORGE WILLIS: It was viewed as good versus evil. 1241 00:58:36,647 --> 00:58:37,980 The good was Evander. 1242 00:58:37,982 --> 00:58:41,350 The good Christian guy who talks about the lord and things 1243 00:58:41,352 --> 00:58:44,152 like that, versus Mike, who at that time 1244 00:58:44,154 --> 00:58:47,556 was the ex-con convicted rapist. 1245 00:58:47,558 --> 00:58:51,527 But Evander was perceived to have no chance against Mike. 1246 00:58:51,529 --> 00:58:53,362 When the fight was first announced, 1247 00:58:53,364 --> 00:58:56,665 Evander was a 25 to one underdog. 1248 00:58:56,667 --> 00:58:58,033 I mean, that's huge odds. 1249 00:58:58,035 --> 00:59:01,136 For anybody to be 25 to one is like, they've got to shot. 1250 00:59:01,138 --> 00:59:02,104 [ding] 1251 00:59:03,574 --> 00:59:08,377 ANNOUNCER: As expected, Mike Tyson comes out fast. 1252 00:59:08,379 --> 00:59:10,279 -Don't push, don't push, don't push. 1253 00:59:10,281 --> 00:59:11,346 Let's go. 1254 00:59:11,348 --> 00:59:13,482 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: I'm from the hood too. 1255 00:59:13,484 --> 00:59:17,319 I may not act like I'm from there, but I'm from there. 1256 00:59:17,321 --> 00:59:21,089 Tyson never did insult me. 1257 00:59:21,091 --> 00:59:22,324 But the press did. 1258 00:59:22,326 --> 00:59:25,761 They talking about, Tyson gonna kill you. 1259 00:59:25,763 --> 00:59:27,696 ANNOUNCER: As we head for the bell. 1260 00:59:27,698 --> 00:59:29,631 [dinging] 1261 00:59:29,633 --> 00:59:32,034 They continue to go after the bell! 1262 00:59:32,036 --> 00:59:33,635 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: Ain't nothing that he 1263 00:59:33,637 --> 00:59:36,605 was gonna do that I'm not accustomed to. 1264 00:59:36,607 --> 00:59:38,574 ANNOUNCER: No intimidation factor here whatsoever. 1265 00:59:38,576 --> 00:59:39,374 -Great! 1266 00:59:39,376 --> 00:59:39,841 Step easy. 1267 00:59:39,843 --> 00:59:41,043 Back. 1268 00:59:41,045 --> 00:59:43,078 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: I knew he was gonna be tough, 1269 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,514 but I had watched him my whole life. 1270 00:59:45,516 --> 00:59:49,184 It was almost like, this is the fight. 1271 00:59:49,186 --> 00:59:53,589 ANNOUNCER: The crowd behind Holyfield. 1272 00:59:53,591 --> 00:59:55,557 CROWD: (CHANTING) Holyfield! 1273 00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:58,527 ANNOUNCER: Chants of Holyfield as the crowd sensing 1274 00:59:58,529 --> 01:00:02,965 that Holyfield might have Tyson in trouble. 1275 01:00:02,967 --> 01:00:06,768 -Mike just wore down from not being able to hurt Evander, 1276 01:00:06,770 --> 01:00:09,871 and that was something that he had never experienced before. 1277 01:00:09,873 --> 01:00:10,839 ANNOUNCER: Tyson in trouble! 1278 01:00:10,841 --> 01:00:13,275 Tyson's ready to go! 1279 01:00:13,277 --> 01:00:17,212 [inaudible] stops the fight, and Holyfield has the win! 1280 01:00:17,214 --> 01:00:18,647 ANNOUNCER: I can't believe what I'm seeing. 1281 01:00:18,649 --> 01:00:20,115 It's the most unbelievable thing I've 1282 01:00:20,117 --> 01:00:22,217 ever been privileged to witness. 1283 01:00:22,219 --> 01:00:23,518 BERNARD HOPKINS: It was one of the most 1284 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,153 complete fights I ever fought. 1285 01:00:31,195 --> 01:00:32,661 AL BERNSTEIN: That was Holyfield's greatest 1286 01:00:32,663 --> 01:00:33,996 achievement. 1287 01:00:33,998 --> 01:00:37,933 Evander Holyfield ended up being in some of the largest 1288 01:00:37,935 --> 01:00:42,070 pay per view matches in the history of the sport, 1289 01:00:42,072 --> 01:00:44,740 but it took him a long time to get there. 1290 01:00:44,742 --> 01:00:46,708 LOU DIBELLA: Evander Holyfield was not just a good fighter. 1291 01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:47,776 He was a great fighter. 1292 01:00:47,778 --> 01:00:49,544 He's an underrated heavyweight in my mind. 1293 01:00:49,546 --> 01:00:52,714 Very arguably belongs in the top 10 heavyweights of all time 1294 01:00:52,716 --> 01:00:53,882 even though he was a little guy. 1295 01:00:53,884 --> 01:00:55,283 Started as a cruiser weight. 1296 01:00:55,285 --> 01:00:56,084 Tyson. 1297 01:01:00,024 --> 01:01:02,124 I don't think he became what he could've been. 1298 01:01:07,965 --> 01:01:10,132 DAVID LEONARD: Boxing, as we imagine it, 1299 01:01:10,134 --> 01:01:15,537 is driven by a desire to annihilate the opponent. 1300 01:01:15,539 --> 01:01:18,607 The focus is on the external. 1301 01:01:18,609 --> 01:01:22,778 Looking at what boxers themselves say 1302 01:01:22,780 --> 01:01:25,747 is that it's about the internal. 1303 01:01:25,749 --> 01:01:27,049 It's about the discipline. 1304 01:01:27,051 --> 01:01:28,750 It's about the craft. 1305 01:01:28,752 --> 01:01:30,952 That it's not about the opponent. 1306 01:01:30,954 --> 01:01:34,656 It's not about the external, but it's about the internal. 1307 01:01:34,658 --> 01:01:37,859 It's about self. 1308 01:01:37,861 --> 01:01:40,495 MICKY WARD: When you win, everybody wins. 1309 01:01:40,497 --> 01:01:41,830 When you lose, you lose alone. 1310 01:01:41,832 --> 01:01:43,965 And that's the truth, because you 1311 01:01:43,967 --> 01:01:45,534 have to deal with that by yourself. 1312 01:01:48,372 --> 01:01:50,338 LOU DIBELLA: There's a large degree to which the fighter 1313 01:01:50,340 --> 01:01:54,109 that achieves stardom, super stardom, they 1314 01:01:54,111 --> 01:01:56,845 represent the American dream to people. 1315 01:01:56,847 --> 01:01:59,815 They, the underdog that makes it. 1316 01:01:59,817 --> 01:02:00,916 But I gotta be honest with you, I 1317 01:02:00,918 --> 01:02:02,651 think a lot of that's greatly overstated. 1318 01:02:05,522 --> 01:02:07,689 Mike Tyson, the biggest athlete by far 1319 01:02:07,691 --> 01:02:11,693 of the 1990s, and biggest athlete of the 1990s, 1320 01:02:11,695 --> 01:02:15,797 and certainly a super star boxer, 1321 01:02:15,799 --> 01:02:20,302 suffered a lot of ups and downs and was never really protected 1322 01:02:20,304 --> 01:02:22,337 by the people that surrounded him 1323 01:02:22,339 --> 01:02:25,173 for the majority of his career. 1324 01:02:25,175 --> 01:02:28,143 MIKE TYSON: My self worth, even when I was a child, 1325 01:02:28,145 --> 01:02:30,846 depended on how much I could hurt someone. 1326 01:02:30,848 --> 01:02:33,415 And as I got older and I met Cus, that, well, 1327 01:02:33,417 --> 01:02:37,152 it continued to be how many people I could knock out, 1328 01:02:37,154 --> 01:02:40,722 how fast I could knock them out, how bad I could hurt them. 1329 01:02:40,724 --> 01:02:45,026 And so it just stayed on that path. 1330 01:02:45,028 --> 01:02:47,028 LOU DIBELLA: The kid doesn't have a normal home environment, 1331 01:02:47,030 --> 01:02:49,698 doesn't have a normal support system around him, 1332 01:02:49,700 --> 01:02:52,367 and then he's basically trained to be a fighting machine. 1333 01:02:52,369 --> 01:02:53,735 His life was crazy. 1334 01:02:53,737 --> 01:02:57,305 Tyson was a pit bull. 1335 01:02:57,307 --> 01:02:59,341 The ear biting incident was a check out. 1336 01:02:59,343 --> 01:03:02,277 Mike was messed up. 1337 01:03:02,279 --> 01:03:05,580 I'm sure he'd be the first one to tell you that. 1338 01:03:05,582 --> 01:03:07,616 MIKE TYSON: You have to understand, this is just what I 1339 01:03:07,618 --> 01:03:10,719 did, seven years of my life, eight years of my life. 1340 01:03:10,721 --> 01:03:13,755 My greatest moment was when I stopped boxing. 1341 01:03:13,757 --> 01:03:15,657 It was just dark for me. 1342 01:03:15,659 --> 01:03:18,894 Boxing got real dark for me. 1343 01:03:18,896 --> 01:03:22,898 ANNOUNCER: A stunned crowd here at the MCI Center in Washington 1344 01:03:22,900 --> 01:03:30,906 DC as McBride defeats Mike Tyson, who quits on his stool. 1345 01:03:30,908 --> 01:03:32,440 -I got an ability to stay in shape, 1346 01:03:32,442 --> 01:03:34,943 but I don't got the fighting guys, I don't think, anymore. 1347 01:03:34,945 --> 01:03:36,444 REPORTER: When did you recognize that? 1348 01:03:36,446 --> 01:03:37,612 At what part of the fight? 1349 01:03:37,614 --> 01:03:38,480 -I don't know. 1350 01:03:38,482 --> 01:03:41,483 Early into the fight. 1351 01:03:41,485 --> 01:03:42,751 I'm just sorry I let everybody down. 1352 01:03:42,753 --> 01:03:46,922 I mean, I just don't have this in my heart anymore. 1353 01:03:46,924 --> 01:03:48,123 REPORTER: Did you feel as though you 1354 01:03:48,125 --> 01:03:49,624 had it coming into the fight? 1355 01:03:49,626 --> 01:03:50,926 -No. 1356 01:03:50,928 --> 01:03:54,329 I'm just fighting to take care of my bills, basically. 1357 01:03:54,331 --> 01:03:56,598 DALTON CONLEY: We know from studies of lottery winners, 1358 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,967 of professional athletes, anyone who 1359 01:03:58,969 --> 01:04:01,469 comes into a sudden windfall of money, 1360 01:04:01,471 --> 01:04:03,338 be careful what you wish for, because that 1361 01:04:03,340 --> 01:04:05,106 creates more problems. 1362 01:04:05,108 --> 01:04:07,008 You have everybody coming out of the woodwork 1363 01:04:07,010 --> 01:04:08,276 to try to get a piece of your action. 1364 01:04:15,586 --> 01:04:19,120 REPORTER: Tyson has pulled in an estimated $300 million. 1365 01:04:19,122 --> 01:04:21,056 He could have made more if he hadn't 1366 01:04:21,058 --> 01:04:22,657 racked up the prison time. 1367 01:04:22,659 --> 01:04:26,428 And who knows how much he's lost in lawsuits or to the managers 1368 01:04:26,430 --> 01:04:28,230 he claims ripped him off? 1369 01:04:28,232 --> 01:04:31,499 The bottom line, Tyson then, $300 million. 1370 01:04:31,501 --> 01:04:33,935 Tyson now, chapter 11. 1371 01:04:33,937 --> 01:04:36,805 -It's a sport where you can be used. 1372 01:04:36,807 --> 01:04:39,875 There's no training about how to handle 1373 01:04:39,877 --> 01:04:41,877 yourself outside the ring. 1374 01:04:41,879 --> 01:04:45,747 Very few boxers are taught about how to handle their money. 1375 01:04:45,749 --> 01:04:49,117 -If you don't have a good team of people around you, 1376 01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:50,385 you will kill yourself. 1377 01:04:50,387 --> 01:04:53,154 You will crash and burn, because every level of success 1378 01:04:53,156 --> 01:04:56,925 you have, you hit a wall that you have to learn more. 1379 01:04:56,927 --> 01:04:58,760 LOU DIBELLA: I will always wonder why Mike Tyson didn't 1380 01:04:58,762 --> 01:05:03,398 declare bankruptcy years before his tax issues became crushing. 1381 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,033 I mean, he clearly was bankrupt. 1382 01:05:05,035 --> 01:05:06,368 Why didn't he declare bankruptcy? 1383 01:05:06,370 --> 01:05:09,204 Because it was in people's interests to keep his contracts 1384 01:05:09,206 --> 01:05:11,606 alive with those he was doing business. 1385 01:05:11,608 --> 01:05:13,174 -Days after filing for bankruptcy, 1386 01:05:13,176 --> 01:05:16,344 boxer Mike Tyson has filed suit against his former promoter, 1387 01:05:16,346 --> 01:05:17,479 Don King. 1388 01:05:17,481 --> 01:05:20,181 -Don was-- I mean, he knew everybody. 1389 01:05:20,183 --> 01:05:22,350 It's like he was a step ahead of us. 1390 01:05:22,352 --> 01:05:24,419 How could you prepare for something like that? 1391 01:05:24,421 --> 01:05:26,321 You don't know who's trying to take 1392 01:05:26,323 --> 01:05:28,523 from you, who loves you, who likes you. 1393 01:05:28,525 --> 01:05:31,626 You don't know if somebody's trying to set you up. 1394 01:05:31,628 --> 01:05:33,194 -Even when you play by the rule book, 1395 01:05:33,196 --> 01:05:36,498 you find a person that has that same energy that the person had 1396 01:05:36,500 --> 01:05:41,136 that was trying to rob you, but they won't even give you 1397 01:05:41,138 --> 01:05:44,472 courtesy of pointing a gun at you. 1398 01:05:44,474 --> 01:05:46,574 They'll rob you and do it in black and white. 1399 01:05:46,576 --> 01:05:48,777 And I seen people do worse things to you 1400 01:05:48,779 --> 01:05:54,349 in corporate settings than I seen them do on the street. 1401 01:05:54,351 --> 01:05:55,517 Take everything from you. 1402 01:05:58,488 --> 01:06:02,757 BERNARD HOPKINS: There are bottom feeders that will attach 1403 01:06:02,759 --> 01:06:05,360 themselves with their law license, 1404 01:06:05,362 --> 01:06:11,333 with their business savvy to a fighter from Brooklyn, New 1405 01:06:11,335 --> 01:06:14,869 York, Philly, or any other place that 1406 01:06:14,871 --> 01:06:17,405 don't have really the education. 1407 01:06:17,407 --> 01:06:19,541 REPORTER: Just ask Atlanta car dealer Ken Sanders 1408 01:06:19,543 --> 01:06:21,009 who took Holyfield under his wing 1409 01:06:21,011 --> 01:06:24,946 when he needed a cosigner for a car and became his manager. 1410 01:06:24,948 --> 01:06:26,815 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: Ken Sanders wasn't my manager. 1411 01:06:26,817 --> 01:06:29,050 I just told people that because he ran a car 1412 01:06:29,052 --> 01:06:31,519 dealership so he knew about money. 1413 01:06:31,521 --> 01:06:33,755 I got into boxing because all I had 1414 01:06:33,757 --> 01:06:35,423 to do what know how to fight. 1415 01:06:35,425 --> 01:06:37,292 I didn't know nobody who know about money. 1416 01:06:37,294 --> 01:06:40,362 I don't know nobody who made a lot of money. 1417 01:06:40,364 --> 01:06:43,431 BERNARD HOPKINS: I mean, even when you hit the Powerball, 1418 01:06:43,433 --> 01:06:45,000 the first thing people will tell you 1419 01:06:45,002 --> 01:06:47,535 is, get an accountant and a lawyer. 1420 01:06:47,537 --> 01:06:50,939 Well, boxing is the same way, but they don't tell you. 1421 01:06:50,941 --> 01:06:55,276 That's why most athletes wind up not having nothing when 1422 01:06:55,278 --> 01:06:59,314 all the hard labor and years in the ring is over. 1423 01:06:59,316 --> 01:07:01,016 -You ask Mike Tyson, how you doing, Mike. 1424 01:07:01,018 --> 01:07:02,984 He says, just living today today. 1425 01:07:02,986 --> 01:07:03,785 That's what he's doing. 1426 01:07:03,787 --> 01:07:05,487 Just living today today. 1427 01:07:05,489 --> 01:07:07,756 -You can look at people like Evander Holyfield 1428 01:07:07,758 --> 01:07:12,127 that made hundreds of millions of dollars whose houses went 1429 01:07:12,129 --> 01:07:16,765 into foreclosure and who's struggling right now to get by. 1430 01:07:16,767 --> 01:07:19,334 REPORTER: A foreclosure notice in the local newspaper states 1431 01:07:19,336 --> 01:07:22,370 Holyfield defaulted on a $10 million bank loan. 1432 01:07:22,372 --> 01:07:25,073 A strange reversal of fortune for a champion 1433 01:07:25,075 --> 01:07:27,342 believed to have earned $200 million 1434 01:07:27,344 --> 01:07:29,644 during his storied career. 1435 01:07:29,646 --> 01:07:32,247 The house that Holyfield built may soon 1436 01:07:32,249 --> 01:07:36,117 become his biggest loss outside of the ring. 1437 01:07:36,119 --> 01:07:38,853 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: When you get money, you gotta ask questions. 1438 01:07:38,855 --> 01:07:40,288 I never did have to ask questions, 1439 01:07:40,290 --> 01:07:42,257 because I'd never had no money. 1440 01:07:42,259 --> 01:07:43,892 What happened to me is not so much 1441 01:07:43,894 --> 01:07:46,127 they stole, but they did take advantage 1442 01:07:46,129 --> 01:07:48,129 of what I didn't know. 1443 01:07:48,131 --> 01:07:51,366 AL BERNSTEIN: They all want this boxer to make them money. 1444 01:07:51,368 --> 01:07:54,335 Once the boxer doesn't make them any more money, 1445 01:07:54,337 --> 01:07:56,604 they're cast aside like rubbish. 1446 01:07:56,606 --> 01:07:58,339 LOU DIBELLA: You retire with a great record, 1447 01:07:58,341 --> 01:08:00,909 and then you'd be sitting on a stool in your living room, 1448 01:08:00,911 --> 01:08:02,177 where do I go from here? 1449 01:08:02,179 --> 01:08:03,478 I don't have any skills. 1450 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:04,546 I'm not trained to do anything. 1451 01:08:04,548 --> 01:08:05,380 I'm not educated. 1452 01:08:05,382 --> 01:08:06,781 I don't have a college degree. 1453 01:08:06,783 --> 01:08:08,783 A lot of guys don't have high school degrees. 1454 01:08:08,785 --> 01:08:11,786 LARRY SLOMAN: It's not at all uncommon to have even boxers 1455 01:08:11,788 --> 01:08:15,290 who had great acclaim wind up broke, 1456 01:08:15,292 --> 01:08:19,627 penniless, as greeters at a casino in Vegas. 1457 01:08:19,629 --> 01:08:21,096 -What you don't hear about is the guy 1458 01:08:21,098 --> 01:08:23,665 that fights on ESPN four times a year, 1459 01:08:23,667 --> 01:08:27,335 and after he pays his manager, and his trainer, and everyone 1460 01:08:27,337 --> 01:08:30,105 involved, is still at the poverty line. 1461 01:08:30,107 --> 01:08:32,740 The budgets on ESPN allow a guy in a main event 1462 01:08:32,742 --> 01:08:35,110 to get paid about 15 grand. 1463 01:08:35,112 --> 01:08:36,744 Like I said, split that money off, 1464 01:08:36,746 --> 01:08:38,480 train for number of weeks for that fight, 1465 01:08:38,482 --> 01:08:41,282 and you're making-- You could make more money, honestly, 1466 01:08:41,284 --> 01:08:42,884 taking a minimum wage job and working 1467 01:08:42,886 --> 01:08:44,953 a little bit of over time. 1468 01:08:44,955 --> 01:08:46,955 The minimum salary in Major League Baseball, 1469 01:08:46,957 --> 01:08:50,358 even in minor league baseball, is livable. 1470 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,927 There is no minimum salary for a fighter. 1471 01:08:52,929 --> 01:08:57,932 The top 1% fighters probably make 99% of money. 1472 01:08:57,934 --> 01:09:01,536 -Boxing is laissez-faire capitalism run amok. 1473 01:09:01,538 --> 01:09:05,073 There is essentially no one running the ship. 1474 01:09:05,075 --> 01:09:07,842 There's different organizations that run a piece of it. 1475 01:09:07,844 --> 01:09:12,113 There's promoters who go up and down and control parts of it, 1476 01:09:12,115 --> 01:09:16,784 but there are essentially no regulations. 1477 01:09:16,786 --> 01:09:19,587 FRANCISCO AGUILAR: Boxing is regulated at the state level. 1478 01:09:19,589 --> 01:09:21,456 You have Nevada with its set of rules, 1479 01:09:21,458 --> 01:09:23,525 you have California with its set of rules, you have New York, 1480 01:09:23,527 --> 01:09:24,759 you have New Jersey. 1481 01:09:24,761 --> 01:09:26,594 Jurisdictions will have a different perspective 1482 01:09:26,596 --> 01:09:28,329 on a different matter, and nobody 1483 01:09:28,331 --> 01:09:30,064 is on the same page at all times. 1484 01:09:30,066 --> 01:09:32,667 Most people think that we need a federal commission 1485 01:09:32,669 --> 01:09:35,236 to regulate the sport of boxing. 1486 01:09:35,238 --> 01:09:37,405 The federal government tempted to regulate boxing 1487 01:09:37,407 --> 01:09:39,307 by the passage of the Ali Act. 1488 01:09:39,309 --> 01:09:42,143 It's given some authority to the federal government 1489 01:09:42,145 --> 01:09:45,747 to enforce boxing from a business perspective. 1490 01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:49,984 However, there has not been any prosecution or implementation 1491 01:09:49,986 --> 01:09:52,487 of the Ali Act for a fighter. 1492 01:09:52,489 --> 01:09:57,192 -Why is it every sport in America is regulated or has 1493 01:09:57,194 --> 01:10:00,461 some type of union and boxing don't? 1494 01:10:08,371 --> 01:10:10,772 -In other sports like baseball, football, tennis, 1495 01:10:10,774 --> 01:10:14,108 you have individuals who are well educated in those sports 1496 01:10:14,110 --> 01:10:17,011 to help guide those champions through their effort 1497 01:10:17,013 --> 01:10:18,146 and their time. 1498 01:10:18,148 --> 01:10:20,114 -If you're an NFL player, or an NBA player, 1499 01:10:20,116 --> 01:10:21,616 or a Major League Baseball player, 1500 01:10:21,618 --> 01:10:23,618 there is at least a core. 1501 01:10:23,620 --> 01:10:24,852 You have the team. 1502 01:10:24,854 --> 01:10:27,422 You have whatever resources they have to help you. 1503 01:10:27,424 --> 01:10:29,023 You have the league that has some resources. 1504 01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:39,267 BERNARD HOPKINS: Who do we go to? 1505 01:10:39,269 --> 01:10:42,370 It's crazy to put your body and your mind 1506 01:10:42,372 --> 01:10:44,839 through this hard way of making a living 1507 01:10:44,841 --> 01:10:46,741 for yourself and your family. 1508 01:10:46,743 --> 01:10:51,980 And to wind up with nothing and not even your health, to me, 1509 01:10:51,982 --> 01:10:53,715 is a sin. 1510 01:10:53,717 --> 01:10:55,083 MAUREEN SCHAFER: We as a country, 1511 01:10:55,085 --> 01:10:58,286 are in love with our sports, but when these two fighters step 1512 01:10:58,288 --> 01:11:01,389 into a ring, there is a level of violence that 1513 01:11:01,391 --> 01:11:03,758 is unlike any other sport in terms 1514 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,427 of duration and intensity. 1515 01:11:06,429 --> 01:11:09,631 When a fighter receives a blow that is so severe, 1516 01:11:09,633 --> 01:11:11,332 what's going on inside the head is the brain 1517 01:11:11,334 --> 01:11:13,835 is suddenly slammed against the back of your skull 1518 01:11:13,837 --> 01:11:16,638 and then thrown forward again as the head snaps back. 1519 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,873 It's commonly called a concussion. 1520 01:11:26,916 --> 01:11:30,318 It can swell and cause long term hematomas, 1521 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,887 bleeding on the brain, memory loss, strokes 1522 01:11:32,889 --> 01:11:34,922 or aneurysms, or vessel breakage. 1523 01:11:44,301 --> 01:11:47,735 It can cause death depending on how severe, how acute, 1524 01:11:47,737 --> 01:11:50,571 where the brain actually impacts the skull. 1525 01:11:50,573 --> 01:11:54,042 It has happened where a fighter will leave the ring. 1526 01:11:54,044 --> 01:11:56,210 Whether they've won or lost, they look fine. 1527 01:11:56,212 --> 01:11:59,047 They head out to dinner, everything's wonderful, 1528 01:11:59,049 --> 01:12:01,015 and one, to two, to three days later, 1529 01:12:01,017 --> 01:12:03,651 something traumatic happens. 1530 01:12:03,653 --> 01:12:05,119 LOU DIBELLA: I had a young champion, 1531 01:12:05,121 --> 01:12:06,921 a guy named Leavander Johnson. 1532 01:12:06,923 --> 01:12:07,955 He was walking out of the ring. 1533 01:12:07,957 --> 01:12:09,791 I walked out of the ring behind him 1534 01:12:09,793 --> 01:12:11,959 and I saw he was a little unsteady on his feet. 1535 01:12:11,961 --> 01:12:13,761 He put his arm on me and I walked 1536 01:12:13,763 --> 01:12:15,697 him back to his dressing room. 1537 01:12:15,699 --> 01:12:18,566 He was apologizing for losing. 1538 01:12:18,568 --> 01:12:20,101 And I'll never forget it. 1539 01:12:20,103 --> 01:12:22,003 He sat on a stool, then he looked at me 1540 01:12:22,005 --> 01:12:24,072 and he said, Lou, I have a headache. 1541 01:12:24,074 --> 01:12:27,442 And then he fell forward and he never regained consciousness. 1542 01:12:27,444 --> 01:12:31,312 He died, I think, it was five, six days later. 1543 01:12:31,314 --> 01:12:35,283 -Every society, for the most part, on the face of the Earth 1544 01:12:35,285 --> 01:12:38,386 has some primal need for violence. 1545 01:12:40,957 --> 01:12:42,323 It's always there, that bloodthirstiness. 1546 01:12:45,595 --> 01:12:49,097 GEORGE WILLIS: It's human nature to be fascinated by violence. 1547 01:12:49,099 --> 01:12:51,632 We hear a car wreck, we go see what happened. 1548 01:12:51,634 --> 01:12:52,767 Horror movies. 1549 01:12:52,769 --> 01:12:56,371 How's somebody gonna be eaten alive or torn up? 1550 01:12:56,373 --> 01:12:57,739 It's all over the place. 1551 01:12:57,741 --> 01:13:01,609 We are just attracted by confrontation, 1552 01:13:01,611 --> 01:13:04,512 by conflict, by controversy. 1553 01:13:04,514 --> 01:13:10,084 That's what sells and that's what boxing tries to sell. 1554 01:13:10,086 --> 01:13:13,254 FRANCISCO AGUILAR: Boxing needs something that can say, hey, 1555 01:13:13,256 --> 01:13:16,124 there is support for a fighter. 1556 01:13:16,126 --> 01:13:18,559 The fighter is the one who's putting his life in danger 1557 01:13:18,561 --> 01:13:20,762 to enter that ring and provide entertainment 1558 01:13:20,764 --> 01:13:22,163 to everybody that's there. 1559 01:13:22,165 --> 01:13:24,832 However, we have to weigh the resources we have 1560 01:13:24,834 --> 01:13:26,501 with the actual regulation of the sport. 1561 01:13:26,503 --> 01:13:29,370 Over the last year, we generated about $5.5 million 1562 01:13:29,372 --> 01:13:32,473 in tax revenue just from ticket sales. 1563 01:13:32,475 --> 01:13:35,109 The state legislature then makes an appropriation 1564 01:13:35,111 --> 01:13:37,545 to the Athletic Commission, and that allocation 1565 01:13:37,547 --> 01:13:39,647 is about $450,000. 1566 01:13:39,649 --> 01:13:43,184 So there's a huge disparity from a regulative prospective. 1567 01:13:43,186 --> 01:13:45,453 LOU DIBELLA: I'm concerned right now about the sport. 1568 01:13:45,455 --> 01:13:49,290 People in life have a right to take risks and a right 1569 01:13:49,292 --> 01:13:51,426 to live the lives they want to live. 1570 01:13:51,428 --> 01:13:54,529 Now, that being said, it's barbaric in a lot of ways 1571 01:13:54,531 --> 01:13:58,566 that there's no standardized health and safety 1572 01:13:58,568 --> 01:13:59,934 criteria in the United States. 1573 01:13:59,936 --> 01:14:01,569 Think about that. 1574 01:14:01,571 --> 01:14:02,937 It's preposterous. 1575 01:14:02,939 --> 01:14:05,773 LARRY SLOMAN: It's high time that boxing began to regulate 1576 01:14:05,775 --> 01:14:08,776 just like other pro sports like the NFL. 1577 01:14:08,778 --> 01:14:13,414 -When there's no checks and balances, there's a problem. 1578 01:14:13,416 --> 01:14:14,882 MAUREEN SCHAFER: When you see the people who 1579 01:14:14,884 --> 01:14:17,585 come from nothing, who come from less than nothing, 1580 01:14:17,587 --> 01:14:20,421 to see them perform and to see them give 1581 01:14:20,423 --> 01:14:24,826 such great entertainment is an amazing thing. 1582 01:14:24,828 --> 01:14:27,595 But as important as it is for us to celebrate them 1583 01:14:27,597 --> 01:14:30,064 at the top of where they are, it's as important 1584 01:14:30,066 --> 01:14:32,867 that we figure out how to carry them 1585 01:14:32,869 --> 01:14:34,836 when they need us the most. 1586 01:14:34,838 --> 01:14:36,504 LOU DIBELLA: There are some great success stories 1587 01:14:36,506 --> 01:14:37,939 and some great stories of those who 1588 01:14:37,941 --> 01:14:42,443 escape prison, escape the street and make it. 1589 01:14:42,445 --> 01:14:44,579 But for every one of those guys, there's a sad story 1590 01:14:44,581 --> 01:14:46,647 and there's a story of someone who's exploited, 1591 01:14:46,649 --> 01:14:49,383 or a story of someone who loses their health in the long term, 1592 01:14:49,385 --> 01:14:52,153 or a story that somebody who becomes a champion 1593 01:14:52,155 --> 01:14:54,322 and toils for years, and then winds up 1594 01:14:54,324 --> 01:14:56,591 retired with virtually nothing. 1595 01:14:56,593 --> 01:14:59,093 It's the American dream and it's the American nightmare. 1596 01:15:15,778 --> 01:15:17,745 MIKE TYSON: When I'm over here and I'm looking at the Vegas 1597 01:15:17,747 --> 01:15:20,648 strip, I can think about all the trouble I got in over there. 1598 01:15:20,650 --> 01:15:22,083 All the drugs I used there. 1599 01:15:25,321 --> 01:15:28,222 I never even think about all the great fights I had there. 1600 01:15:28,224 --> 01:15:29,957 I just think about all the things 1601 01:15:29,959 --> 01:15:34,095 I did there, wasn't really moral. 1602 01:15:34,097 --> 01:15:37,865 All I did is knock people out, screw people, 1603 01:15:37,867 --> 01:15:40,034 have sex with women, get high on drugs. 1604 01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:45,072 When me and my wife first got together, 1605 01:15:45,074 --> 01:15:46,340 I was a full blown addict. 1606 01:15:51,214 --> 01:15:54,348 My daughter passed away at four years old. 1607 01:15:54,350 --> 01:15:56,918 What happened was a tragic accident at home. 1608 01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,252 That's my lowest point. 1609 01:16:02,992 --> 01:16:04,559 When I was at the hospital, I realized 1610 01:16:04,561 --> 01:16:06,994 that other people's children were dying too. 1611 01:16:06,996 --> 01:16:09,330 And those people, just because I'm famous, 1612 01:16:09,332 --> 01:16:11,299 they took out of their way, left their dying children, 1613 01:16:11,301 --> 01:16:13,568 their sick children, came over here and prayed with me. 1614 01:16:13,570 --> 01:16:14,769 Then I realized, well, hey. 1615 01:16:14,771 --> 01:16:16,837 Their baby's dying too. 1616 01:16:16,839 --> 01:16:19,473 So what makes you so important that you think you should 1617 01:16:19,475 --> 01:16:21,175 be mad and angry, want to kill somebody, 1618 01:16:21,177 --> 01:16:22,977 and do-- just do this whole tough guy 1619 01:16:22,979 --> 01:16:24,912 stuff because your baby's dying? 1620 01:16:24,914 --> 01:16:26,180 Their baby's dying too, and they left 1621 01:16:26,182 --> 01:16:27,481 them to come over here and talk to you. 1622 01:16:27,483 --> 01:16:29,550 You ain't shit, motherfucker. 1623 01:16:29,552 --> 01:16:31,185 You don't care about nobody. 1624 01:16:31,187 --> 01:16:32,453 These people left their fucking baby 1625 01:16:32,455 --> 01:16:34,922 to talk to your no good fucking ass. 1626 01:16:34,924 --> 01:16:37,158 And, um, that's just what it was. 1627 01:16:40,797 --> 01:16:43,230 And it's not about me. 1628 01:16:43,232 --> 01:16:45,166 The world's bigger than me. 1629 01:16:48,538 --> 01:16:50,905 My wife, she stayed by me and said, 1630 01:16:50,907 --> 01:16:52,540 we're gonna get through this. 1631 01:16:52,542 --> 01:16:53,941 Just kept it very positive. 1632 01:16:53,943 --> 01:16:54,842 Constantly positive. 1633 01:16:57,614 --> 01:17:00,715 I just wanted to change. 1634 01:17:00,717 --> 01:17:03,384 I wanted to break the chain of self bondage 1635 01:17:03,386 --> 01:17:05,753 that my mother and father and her mother and father 1636 01:17:05,755 --> 01:17:07,121 probably had. 1637 01:17:07,123 --> 01:17:10,858 And I wanted it to change with me so my kids wouldn't have 1638 01:17:10,860 --> 01:17:14,595 to deal with that same suffering. 1639 01:17:14,597 --> 01:17:17,932 I'm so happy to be involved with the recovery world. 1640 01:17:17,934 --> 01:17:21,135 I met a bunch of people that were just amazing people. 1641 01:17:21,137 --> 01:17:22,203 They didn't quit on me. 1642 01:17:22,205 --> 01:17:23,571 They didn't give up on me like the rest 1643 01:17:23,573 --> 01:17:26,340 of the people in my life. 1644 01:17:26,342 --> 01:17:29,010 It's an ongoing struggle. 1645 01:17:29,012 --> 01:17:32,146 The pain never goes away. 1646 01:17:32,148 --> 01:17:35,116 I'm never in a situation that I'm so secure that I could 1647 01:17:35,118 --> 01:17:39,654 never fall back into that nasty, dirty, disgusting, wretched 1648 01:17:39,656 --> 01:17:41,088 individual that I once was. 1649 01:17:41,090 --> 01:17:45,526 I never think that guy's gone totally. 1650 01:17:45,528 --> 01:17:47,294 It's time now where I have to deal with things 1651 01:17:47,296 --> 01:17:50,231 from a serious perspective, and how me and my family 1652 01:17:50,233 --> 01:17:51,532 are gonna evolve from that perspective. 1653 01:17:59,175 --> 01:18:01,676 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: He had to make adjustments. 1654 01:18:01,678 --> 01:18:04,845 Adjustment's part of life. 1655 01:18:04,847 --> 01:18:06,047 Disappointment. 1656 01:18:06,049 --> 01:18:07,715 That's the biggest fight. 1657 01:18:07,717 --> 01:18:11,018 You want to see how strong somebody is? 1658 01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:13,587 Have them get disappointed. 1659 01:18:13,589 --> 01:18:15,523 ANNOUNCER: It's over. 1660 01:18:15,525 --> 01:18:16,490 That's it. 1661 01:18:16,492 --> 01:18:17,425 It is over. 1662 01:18:17,427 --> 01:18:18,759 ANNOUNCER: That's it. 1663 01:18:18,761 --> 01:18:22,730 ANNOUNCER: Evander Holyfield has never been knocked out, 1664 01:18:22,732 --> 01:18:27,635 and Riddick Bowe is the one to do it. 1665 01:18:27,637 --> 01:18:30,004 ANNOUNCER: If I was Holyfield or any of his team members, 1666 01:18:30,006 --> 01:18:33,941 I'd really have to reevaluate if he's fit to continue to fight. 1667 01:18:33,943 --> 01:18:35,876 With all the health problems and the heart conditions, 1668 01:18:35,878 --> 01:18:37,545 is Evander Holyfield just completely done? 1669 01:18:37,547 --> 01:18:40,047 We don't know. 1670 01:18:40,049 --> 01:18:41,148 BERNARD HOPKINS: My mother passed 1671 01:18:41,150 --> 01:18:44,151 before I fought Mike Tyson. 1672 01:18:44,153 --> 01:18:48,289 My brother passed before I fought Riddick Bowe. 1673 01:18:48,291 --> 01:18:50,224 I had a lot of tragedy in my family and stuff. 1674 01:18:50,226 --> 01:18:53,194 So, you know, you have to put them behind. 1675 01:18:53,196 --> 01:18:54,695 ANNOUNCER: And the continuing life 1676 01:18:54,697 --> 01:18:56,297 in the ring of Evander Holyfield. 1677 01:18:56,299 --> 01:18:58,165 Don't count me out yet, he says. 1678 01:18:58,167 --> 01:19:01,435 And tonight, with some new gas in the tank. 1679 01:19:01,437 --> 01:19:04,305 LOU DIBELLA: Evander Holyfield was an all time great. 1680 01:19:04,307 --> 01:19:06,674 But Evander didn't understand that the shell life 1681 01:19:06,676 --> 01:19:08,242 of a fighter is limited. 1682 01:19:08,244 --> 01:19:12,046 ANNOUNCER: We may be seeing the end of an era. 1683 01:19:12,048 --> 01:19:16,817 And I think they throw in the towel. 1684 01:19:16,819 --> 01:19:18,886 LOU DIBELLA: I think he was forced to fight way too long. 1685 01:19:18,888 --> 01:19:23,257 Fights at the end of his career are for virtually no money. 1686 01:19:23,259 --> 01:19:26,560 GEORGE WILLIS: Evander is very confident in what he believes. 1687 01:19:26,562 --> 01:19:29,096 His stubbornness can be his greatest 1688 01:19:29,098 --> 01:19:34,001 asset and his greatest liability. 1689 01:19:34,003 --> 01:19:36,771 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: I didn't get into boxing for money. 1690 01:19:36,773 --> 01:19:39,907 I got into boxing because I wanted to be the very best. 1691 01:19:39,909 --> 01:19:41,942 I'm the only person who's been the heavyweight champion 1692 01:19:41,944 --> 01:19:46,580 of the world five times, because I got that many opportunities. 1693 01:19:46,582 --> 01:19:48,849 Everybody's gonna get off the path, 1694 01:19:48,851 --> 01:19:50,451 but the point is to get back on it. 1695 01:19:50,453 --> 01:19:54,255 Forgive yourself and get back on. 1696 01:19:54,257 --> 01:19:56,390 REPORTER: Evander Holyfield has faced plenty of opponents 1697 01:19:56,392 --> 01:19:58,192 in the ring, but nothing like this. 1698 01:19:58,194 --> 01:20:00,728 Together with his friend and financier Yank Barry, 1699 01:20:00,730 --> 01:20:02,563 they plan to deliver food aid and help 1700 01:20:02,565 --> 01:20:04,532 resettle Syrian refugees in a home 1701 01:20:04,534 --> 01:20:06,734 supplied by Barry's charity. 1702 01:20:06,736 --> 01:20:07,868 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: Yank Barry used 1703 01:20:07,870 --> 01:20:10,504 my likeness to draw the people. 1704 01:20:10,506 --> 01:20:14,842 I was on my last leg, but this man gave me an opportunity 1705 01:20:14,844 --> 01:20:17,044 to fight back these people who were 1706 01:20:17,046 --> 01:20:19,346 taking my memorabilia and all this. 1707 01:20:19,348 --> 01:20:22,683 He did it himself. 1708 01:20:22,685 --> 01:20:25,286 GEORGE WILLIS: I think Evander has come to that realization 1709 01:20:25,288 --> 01:20:28,956 that he needs to be Evander Holyfield and not necessarily 1710 01:20:28,958 --> 01:20:31,125 Evander Holyfield, four time heavyweight champion 1711 01:20:31,127 --> 01:20:32,426 of the world. 1712 01:20:32,428 --> 01:20:33,894 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: If it wasn't for that Boys 1713 01:20:33,896 --> 01:20:37,765 Club and other people who had money who sponsored me 1714 01:20:37,767 --> 01:20:41,802 as a kid, I wouldn't be who I am. 1715 01:20:41,804 --> 01:20:44,705 The work that I'm doing now with Global Village, 1716 01:20:44,707 --> 01:20:46,807 that's what life is really about. 1717 01:20:46,809 --> 01:20:48,375 I go to Heaven, they ain't gonna be asking me, 1718 01:20:48,377 --> 01:20:50,044 how many times you became the heavyweight champion 1719 01:20:50,046 --> 01:20:51,178 of the world. 1720 01:20:51,180 --> 01:20:53,147 He's gonna ask, what did you do for the people. 1721 01:20:53,149 --> 01:20:56,050 The reason why you exist in the world is to help somebody. 1722 01:20:56,052 --> 01:20:58,185 Not just for yourself. 1723 01:20:58,187 --> 01:21:00,187 -One of my best friends was Muhammad Ali. 1724 01:21:00,189 --> 01:21:01,422 Muhammad's health started failing 1725 01:21:01,424 --> 01:21:05,159 and I had to pick a new goodwill ambassador. 1726 01:21:05,161 --> 01:21:05,960 It was Evander. 1727 01:21:05,962 --> 01:21:08,028 And Evander brought in Mike. 1728 01:21:08,030 --> 01:21:10,564 -He brought-- You bought him in? 1729 01:21:10,566 --> 01:21:12,199 -Yep. 1730 01:21:12,201 --> 01:21:15,202 -Evander Holyfield has been very gracious with Mike. 1731 01:21:15,204 --> 01:21:18,839 Mike bit a portion of his ear off. 1732 01:21:18,841 --> 01:21:22,376 that takes a lot of compassion, a lot of love in your heart, 1733 01:21:22,378 --> 01:21:23,444 to forgive someone. 1734 01:21:23,446 --> 01:21:26,347 -If you forgive, then you'll have peace. 1735 01:21:26,349 --> 01:21:28,816 You won't have people fighting each other all the time. 1736 01:21:28,818 --> 01:21:31,819 That's what makes the world go around is people forgive. 1737 01:21:31,821 --> 01:21:33,921 -What did you think when Evander called you and said, 1738 01:21:33,923 --> 01:21:36,523 I want you to get involved in this project. 1739 01:21:36,525 --> 01:21:38,325 -Well, it's not like I was doing anything, of course. 1740 01:21:38,327 --> 01:21:39,126 You know? 1741 01:21:39,128 --> 01:21:40,494 I said, hey, um, yeah. 1742 01:21:40,496 --> 01:21:41,662 OK. 1743 01:21:41,664 --> 01:21:43,631 -Well, Mike always talked about that he never 1744 01:21:43,633 --> 01:21:46,533 wanted to be involved in the sport again. 1745 01:21:46,535 --> 01:21:48,569 But now that he's resurrected himself, 1746 01:21:48,571 --> 01:21:50,504 you see him going back to boxing, 1747 01:21:50,506 --> 01:21:55,042 establishing his own promotional company to not only help 1748 01:21:55,044 --> 01:21:58,545 the young boxers develop into good boxers, 1749 01:21:58,547 --> 01:22:02,116 but to help them not make some of the bad choices 1750 01:22:02,118 --> 01:22:03,217 that he made. 1751 01:22:03,219 --> 01:22:04,618 LOU DIBELLA: I was very critical of Mike. 1752 01:22:04,620 --> 01:22:05,986 I'm happy to see him at a place where 1753 01:22:05,988 --> 01:22:07,955 I think he's much more at peace, and at a better 1754 01:22:07,957 --> 01:22:10,524 place in his life than I've ever seen him. 1755 01:22:10,526 --> 01:22:11,992 The Mike Tyson that's there right 1756 01:22:11,994 --> 01:22:15,396 now is an honest guy trying to do the best he can 1757 01:22:15,398 --> 01:22:17,197 to be happy and live a good life. 1758 01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:20,434 GEORGE WILLIS: His core love of boxing stems from the amateurs. 1759 01:22:20,436 --> 01:22:22,803 That's when it was all about the love of the game. 1760 01:22:22,805 --> 01:22:24,838 It wasn't so much about money. 1761 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,541 And that's when boxing and the sport is at its purest. 1762 01:22:30,446 --> 01:22:33,013 AL BERNSTEIN: It's the adversity that you face as a boxer that 1763 01:22:33,015 --> 01:22:35,516 really brings out the true champion. 1764 01:22:35,518 --> 01:22:38,185 Bernard, and Mike, and Evander, all of them 1765 01:22:38,187 --> 01:22:39,853 have faced that kind of adversity. 1766 01:22:39,855 --> 01:22:43,590 Inside the ring, to be sure, but outside the ring as well. 1767 01:22:43,592 --> 01:22:47,328 And I don't think we can measure the arc of some of these people 1768 01:22:47,330 --> 01:22:49,496 until we see them go through the adversities. 1769 01:22:49,498 --> 01:22:53,133 And when they do, it takes a lot to come back from it. 1770 01:22:53,135 --> 01:22:56,236 The one thing that I think keeps them coming back, 1771 01:22:56,238 --> 01:22:58,939 both in the boxing ring and in life, 1772 01:22:58,941 --> 01:23:03,143 is the fact that boxers have perseverance. 1773 01:23:03,145 --> 01:23:07,614 -I'm on a different mission now that some ain't gonna like. 1774 01:23:07,616 --> 01:23:08,582 And they shouldn't. 1775 01:23:12,855 --> 01:23:15,489 What I would like to do in my second half of life 1776 01:23:15,491 --> 01:23:17,458 is to raise what they would perceive 1777 01:23:17,460 --> 01:23:20,461 to be hell amongst the people that want to keep 1778 01:23:20,463 --> 01:23:25,733 a society of prey to exist so they can take advantage 1779 01:23:25,735 --> 01:23:28,535 of the backs, and blood, and tears of a fighter. 1780 01:23:28,537 --> 01:23:30,804 -We need to start thinking about things in the long term, 1781 01:23:30,806 --> 01:23:32,806 and I think some of that responsibility 1782 01:23:32,808 --> 01:23:35,242 falls on those that interact with the fighters on a more day 1783 01:23:35,244 --> 01:23:36,610 to day basis. 1784 01:23:36,612 --> 01:23:38,612 There's one particular fighter that has really stepped out 1785 01:23:38,614 --> 01:23:40,447 in front, and that's Bernard Hopkins. 1786 01:23:40,449 --> 01:23:42,916 BERNARD HOPKINS: Being a part of Golden Boy Promotion, what 1787 01:23:42,918 --> 01:23:47,354 I want to do is to take every fighter that comes through me. 1788 01:23:47,356 --> 01:23:51,058 You've got to have your own account. 1789 01:23:51,060 --> 01:23:55,195 You've got to have your own attorney. 1790 01:23:55,197 --> 01:23:58,332 You've got to know what the business is about. 1791 01:24:01,437 --> 01:24:04,104 -This was the sport of kings. 1792 01:24:04,106 --> 01:24:05,606 This sport changed history, man. 1793 01:24:05,608 --> 01:24:07,141 This sport had more to do with the advancement 1794 01:24:07,143 --> 01:24:10,044 of the civil rights movement than any other sport. 1795 01:24:10,046 --> 01:24:14,181 From Jack Johnson to Joe Lewis to Muhammad Ali. 1796 01:24:14,183 --> 01:24:16,417 This is a sport that is ingrained in the fabric 1797 01:24:16,419 --> 01:24:17,718 of this country. 1798 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,854 I think that a resurgence is possible, 1799 01:24:20,856 --> 01:24:25,059 but there has to be some changes made. 1800 01:24:25,061 --> 01:24:26,860 NAAZIM RICHARDSON: The ultimate opponent for a fighter 1801 01:24:26,862 --> 01:24:28,762 is truth. 1802 01:24:28,764 --> 01:24:29,963 If he can be truthful with himself, 1803 01:24:29,965 --> 01:24:31,832 if he can look at his limitations and then 1804 01:24:31,834 --> 01:24:33,967 work on them. 1805 01:24:33,969 --> 01:24:38,072 If he can understand what he does well and then enhance it. 1806 01:24:38,074 --> 01:24:40,541 But he has to deal in truth. 1807 01:24:40,543 --> 01:24:44,578 -When you lose, you can only blame yourself. 1808 01:24:44,580 --> 01:24:47,748 Go back and just look at what you did wrong. 1809 01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:51,785 It's the ones that know how to lose, and make yourself better, 1810 01:24:51,787 --> 01:24:54,021 and come back. 1811 01:24:54,023 --> 01:24:55,022 That's boxing. 1812 01:24:59,428 --> 01:25:03,464 BERNARD HOPKINS: In boxing, you have to have challenges, 1813 01:25:03,466 --> 01:25:08,535 and you use those challenges to take it to a different level. 1814 01:25:08,537 --> 01:25:10,938 I'm a fighter. 1815 01:25:10,940 --> 01:25:13,740 I'm that type of guy that could've been anything else 1816 01:25:13,742 --> 01:25:17,711 in my life if I chose to be that. 1817 01:25:17,713 --> 01:25:21,615 We all have talent in us. 1818 01:25:21,617 --> 01:25:24,985 You just gotta find it. 1819 01:25:24,987 --> 01:25:28,755 EVANDER HOLYFIELD: Everybody's tested in one way or another. 1820 01:25:28,757 --> 01:25:30,791 It ain't easy. 1821 01:25:30,793 --> 01:25:33,127 Your priorities gotta be lined up. 1822 01:25:33,129 --> 01:25:36,330 I have just as many distractions as somebody else. 1823 01:25:36,332 --> 01:25:38,065 but I really wanted to be great. 1824 01:25:41,370 --> 01:25:43,504 Victory is how you're able to inspire 1825 01:25:43,506 --> 01:25:48,208 people to want to be better. 1826 01:25:48,210 --> 01:25:49,610 MIKE TYSON: This all comes down to family, 1827 01:25:49,612 --> 01:25:51,912 love, and forgiveness, and respect. 1828 01:25:51,914 --> 01:25:56,283 Bridging the gaps between who I am and who I want to be. 1829 01:25:56,285 --> 01:25:58,685 I'll find different ways of becoming 1830 01:25:58,687 --> 01:25:59,853 more conscious about myself. 1831 01:26:03,526 --> 01:26:06,727 Human beings think a lot of themselves, you know. 1832 01:26:06,729 --> 01:26:08,462 To think that we'll be that privileged to see 1833 01:26:08,464 --> 01:26:11,265 the end of the world. 1834 01:26:11,267 --> 01:26:14,668 I don't think we're gonna have that privilege. 1835 01:26:14,670 --> 01:26:18,005 I know there's things that have been bad, 1836 01:26:18,007 --> 01:26:21,775 but you have to look at all the good that's happening out here. 1837 01:26:21,777 --> 01:26:24,878 I see a new birth in the world. 1838 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,647 I see people respecting people more. 1839 01:26:29,151 --> 01:26:31,552 We have to evolve. 1840 01:26:31,554 --> 01:26:34,188 This is a great world, and it's the best deal 1841 01:26:34,190 --> 01:26:35,322 we ever got in our life, you know. 1842 01:26:35,324 --> 01:26:37,124 Life itself. 1843 01:26:37,126 --> 01:26:38,025 We got it for nothing. 1844 01:26:38,027 --> 01:26:39,526 Look at all we got in return. 1845 01:26:43,732 --> 01:26:46,767 [music playing]